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Subject: Re: A new FICS exclusively for program authors

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 05:34:16 09/30/03

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On September 30, 2003 at 03:47:30, Richard Pijl wrote:

>On September 29, 2003 at 23:58:00, Steven Edwards wrote:
>
>>On September 29, 2003 at 23:23:22, Jon Dart wrote:
>>
>>>Re having an alternate chess server: sure, maybe. But there's a critical mass
>>>problem. ICC and FICS succeded because they have a large pool of players and
>>>some suitable opponent is almost always available, whatever time of day or night
>>>you are online. If you can't get enough participants to achieve that, then it's
>>>not likely to catch on, IMO.
>>
>>Point taken.  At the moment my machinery is generating over 20 SETI@home work
>>units a day and that can be trimmed considerably to provide some computing power
>>to run a few "always connected" programs, like my old program Spector, my new,
>>upcoming program Symbolic, and a local version of Crafty.
>>
>>Re comments on pool size: my idea is to go for quality vs quantity.
>>
>>Because the proposed FICS is for authors only, it can be customized to better
>>support program players than is the case at other servers.  Examples:
>>
>>1. Multiple accounts for different program versions by the same author.
>>
>>2. Account attribute data includes hardware and software configuration items.
>>
>>3. Local copies of opening books and tablebases could be used.
>>
>>4. Availability of a more program-friendly formatted set of commands and status
>>I/O; possible elimination of FICS features unneeded for program usage.
>>
>>5. Program authors' suggestions for feature set enhancement are taken seriously.
>>
>>6.  A facility for periodic mailing of the rating list; also, periodic mailing
>>all PGN game scores for those accounts that allow disbursement of the score
>>data.
>>
>>7. The possibility of automated pairings, matches, and tournament organization;
>>programs could check the server periodically to see if they've been paired and
>>when and with whom the game is scheduled.  Post-event tourament score
>>crosstables could be automatically mailed.
>>
>>8. The possibility of the server taking an active role in initiating a session
>>with a remote progarm if the program's account has authorize such usage.
>>
>
>
>This feature set sounds very nice.
>
>One of the current problem I have with computer accounts on e.g. ICC is that it
>often takes quite a while before the engine gets a match request. Most of the
>times from a strong, commercial clone account or a relatively weak human player.
>True, I only leave it unattended for longer periods during night-time (in
>Europe) but these are not really the type of games I would like the Baron to
>play (although lost/drawn games against weaker human players are educational,
>they don't occur that often). The possibility of server initiated matches
>(against similar strength accounts) would be great.
>
>Richard.
>
>>>On a technical note: a version of FICS source was released years ago (on the U.
>>>of Pittsburgh site I think) but IIRC it was BSD-based and at the time I couldn't
>>>easily get it to run on a commercial UNIX. So you might need to do some hacking
>>>on it. Maybe FICS itself has something cleaner, but if so they haven't released
>>>it, as far as I know.
>>
>>I've seen the FICS 1.7.4 sources.  I might wind up writing my own version using
>>my toolkit for all the chess specific items.

/agree.  It would also be interesting to set up some sort of multi game match,
e.g. Baron and Zappa agree to play an 8 game 300+3 match, or 2 games at 15 0, or
whatever.  It might require some extensions to Xboard/Arena/whatnot, but it
would be interesting.

anthony



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