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Subject: Re: uhh, athlon *does* run hot

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 21:34:39 09/30/03

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On September 30, 2003 at 20:00:16, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>On September 30, 2003 at 14:56:34, Dan Andersson wrote:
>
>> It's a strangely persistent FUD that the Athlons run hot. The P4 is the space
>>heater CPU of renown.
>> It even got so far that a large group of P4 users banded together and tried to
>>lobby chipset makers to artificially lower the temperature readings for their
>>CPUs by substracting 10C from the diode readings.
>> Strange world, strange people.
>>
>>MvH Dan Andersson
>
>Umm, athlon *does* run hot.  So does P4, and lets not get started with Itanium
>and its 130 watts (it'll cook your dinner *and* do your computations).  A quad
>Power4 system takes even more 1KW.  Athlon was simply the first of these to be
>introduced.  Personally I have a 1.5G AMD w/ a Zalman heatsink and it's quite
>cool and quiet, but most fans aren't that way.
>
>anthony

If you use proper cooling (case and heatsink/fan), it does not run 'hot' at all.
My definition of 'hot' is 40C or more. Take an Athlon XP/MP 2400+ at 1.50v for
example. With the retail heatsink/fan it runs slightly above room temperature at
full load.

I'm testing some for enrico right now as a matter of fact, and full load with
the SK7 and an 80mm fan running 40cfm (nearly silent) and the CPU temperature is
25C w/ 21C ambient air temp. The same setup with a 2.25GHz Athlon 2800+ runs
about 32C. My water-cooled Athlon XP 2100+ (1.73GHz) at 2.5GHz runs about 30C as
well. If you consider this "hot" I'm curious what you call a P4 normally running
60C. ;)

As I mentioned before. With decent case cooling, a quality copper heatsink and a
40cfm or more fan (you can find nearly silent stealth fans everywhere) your
Athlon chip won't even come close to being hot. Also, don't forget Arctic Silver
3 compound. The thermal pad crap is completely worthless and will guarantee your
temps are 10C higher than without them. Remove these with lighter fluid, clean
them well and put arctic silver 3 on the core.

As for a P4... look forward to screaming fans & expensive heatsinks to keep your
cpu temps reasonable.



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