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Subject: Re: International Master Jonathon Schroer has repeatedly offered to play

Author: blass uri

Date: 05:33:02 11/07/98

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On November 07, 1998 at 08:14:11, James T. Walker wrote:

>On November 06, 1998 at 22:55:38, odell hall wrote:
>
>>
>>  Personally I do not understand this newsgroup,all talk and no action!!
>>International Master Schoeder has "Personally appeared on this message board
>>letting it be known he would play a match.  Everyone Basically ignored and
>>snubbed their nose at him!!. Yet we start crying when jerks like GM Moronovic
>>don't show up. Some people may say they are not interested in seeing a strong
>>program play an international master?? But wouldn't this be strong confirmation
>>of GM strength if a program could defeat such a strong player under fair
>>conditions? We are always crying about there not being enough games at long
>>times controls to be certain about rating, yet when opportunities present
>>themselves So called leaders in the group do nothing! Yes I am angry because I
>>would like to see such a match take place and unfortunately I am not in a
>>position of leadership or recognition to takes steps to see it happen. Schroer
>>was basically ignored and shown little respect in my view!
>>S
>
>Hello,
>Personally I would rather see a GM playing one of the top programs.  I think the
>top programs have beat up enough IM's to prove they have a tough time with them.
> If programs are to prove they are GM strength they must beat GM's.

I think that if programs can beat every IM convincingly then it is a proof that
they are GM's strength

I do not think that it is so simple
I think programs cannot beat some 2200 players(against humans) that are
experienced with playing with chess programs and are playing for a draw.

I want to see a match between top programs and the 2115 player that did a draw
against rebel9 and won against Geinus5 in a tournament(In the same tournament
>2300 players lost to programs so the question is not ELO against humans)

Uri



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