Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 07:38:31 10/24/03
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when i installed my first linux version around 1993-1994 or something, not long after linux started, i didn't have any X at all, just textmode and i found it cool :) On October 24, 2003 at 10:27:16, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >On October 24, 2003 at 03:26:00, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On October 23, 2003 at 19:42:59, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On October 23, 2003 at 05:55:12, Daniel Clausen wrote: >>> >>>i've tested so many toolkits and environments and really >>>very *little* even *works* both in linux and windows. >>> >>>when something works great for linux and also works for windows, then usually >>>that allows, to say very kindly, at most year 80s software to be produced for >>>windows. >>> >>>This where we live 2003. You can't sell something years 80 now. Not even to a >>>big bank organisation who works currently years 70... >>> >>>then possible sales under linux. >>> >>>Yes linux is great, but selling something under it???? >>> >>>It's simply NAIVE to guess that porting an application to *nix will sell some. >>>All what happens is that your helpdesk will get flooded for 99% by questions >>>about linux and how to install it and why it doesn't work and what they have to >>>type. >>> >>>Even experienced linux users when i ship them a default diep version, they >>>simply do *not* get diep to work without extensive instructions. >>> >>>The same users *do* get diep to work under windows. >>> >>>Why? >>> >>>Because everything runs there simply. >>> >>>coming weekend i plan to play diep under linux at the dutch open championship, >>>but saying that linux is a commercial succes. No way. It's for nerds and very >>>experienced users only at the moment. >>> >>>That's very sad. >>> >>>All my hope is pointed towards the Japanese/chinese/korean government who are >>>creating a new OS that should go compete against microsoft. >>> >>>Linux has come a long end, but to get commercially interesting to use for mass >>>market products, it has a LONG way to go. >>> >>>At the moment it's only cool for companies who have system administrators and >>>who want to save out for simple database stuff and online stuff a lot of money >>>by using a linux platform + MySQL, to give a popular example. >> >> >> >>What I see is that I have a very capable operating system packed with loads of >>software that comes free, works, and replaces almost everything I was using >>under Windows. >> >>It is not much harder to administrate Linux than to administrate Windows on the >>desktop. Many Windows users are anyway absolutely unable to administrate their >>desktop computer. >> >>Those who are would not find much more difficult to administrate a Linux >>desktop. >> >>In the end the Linux user's experience is very similar to the Windows user's >>experience. I have been using Linux for a year now and when I work I completely >>forget that I'm using Linux and not Windows. >> >>I just work on my stuff, the system is stable and does not crash, so I don't >>even notice that I'm using that scaring geeky stuff that Linux is supposed to >>be. >> >>I think that's an important message to pass: Linux looks and feels like Windows. >>People that just use their PC for email, Internet surfing, word processing, >>spreadsheet and so on would not notice much difference. Those who do more and >>want to install programs and tune their system would have to learn a few tricks, >>but who could do that under Windows without first learning how to do it anyway? >> >> >> >> Christophe > >IMO, there are several big differences between Windows and Linux: > >1. Most people learn to use a computer on Windows; the Windows GUI is what they >are used to. >2. Linux apps don't present a uniform look/feel. You can run any of 30 window >managers and 15 GUI toolkits. Cdbakeoven looks vastly different than gaim which >looks different than openoffice etc. >3. Microsoft spends billions in usability testing. Linux geeks are much more >likely to do "cool stuff" than write documentation or worry about >userfriendliness. The Linux program will contain awesome configurability and >run in 241kb of ram, while using 2.3% of your CPU - if you spend 5 hours reading >newsgroups. The MS program will just work. > >Linux has made a *lot* of strides in usability. When I first installed linux 4 >years ago, I had to hand-edit my XF86Config file. There was no Mplayer or XMMS >or whatnot. In a year or two, you might be right. But I think you are vastly >overestimating the computer expertise most people possess. > >anthony > >P.S. When is CT for linux coming out?
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