Author: Aaron Gordon
Date: 06:49:45 11/11/03
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On November 11, 2003 at 09:39:20, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On November 11, 2003 at 08:50:53, Aaron Gordon wrote: > >>It would be better had they used a quad or 8-way Opteron running 2GHz or more. >>From some testing I've done in the past you can figure a single Opteron 2GHz == >>a P4-3.6GHz in Fritz 8 (32bit mode). So, a Quad Opteron 2.0 == Quad P4-3.6. >>Almost 30% faster, plus the memory bandwidth available would probably push it a >>bit over that with large hash table sizes. 8-way Opteron 2.0 would of course be >>like 8 p4-3.6's (however with some 40gb/s+ memory bandwidth available depending >>on bus speed). >> >>Why not use the best hardware? Seems like if you'd want to promote your new >>'awesome' chess program you'd want to give it the best chance of winning. > > >If you were in charge of advertising the AMD company, you probably would have >offered the Fritz team as well as Mr. Kasparov a good deal of money to select a >Quad 4-way Opteron running at 2GHz or more, but it seems that Intel made a >better proposal knowing how much revenue it can bring their company. > >PS: Remember how good IBM stocks did after the 1997 match against Mr. Kasparov, >it is NOT just a match, it is a well promoted Intel advertisement Show, shown >all over the World by ESPN. > > >Jorge I'd prefer a stronger machine and more potential money rather than a slower machine and more money now.. but thats just me. :) When stuff like this happens there is always a voice in the back of my head going, "If it was run on THIS instead, what would have happened?". 8-way Opteron could potentially pull 70 or so elo (if you figure 50 per doubling) over the quad xeon. More if you consider it could be 64bit. This at this point is probably not realistic as I'm sure Franz and whomever else would need a good bit of time to produce a nice 64bit engine. Better to have focused on getting the engine tuned right now for this particular match.. which of course they did. Now, hopefully, they can turn their attention to an Opteron(64bit) version of Fritz.. unless of course Intel has stuffed entirely too much money up their you know what. :) Again this is where you wonder, "could that extra 70 elo have helped Fritz draw this particular game, avoiding losing to Kasparov?".. or.. whichever way you want to do it. Just doesn't seem right not using the best available.. not as interesting IMHO.
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