Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 01:29:47 11/16/03
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On November 16, 2003 at 04:05:14, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On November 16, 2003 at 03:33:28, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On November 15, 2003 at 16:46:44, steven blincoe wrote: >> >>>that i am actually looking forward to game 3 tomorrow >>>perhaps this will mark the end of the Kasparov era.. >>>he is no longer the human World Champion and hopefully with a loss tomorrow or >>>in the fourth and final game,he will no longer be the one representing the >>>human race against the silicon monster >>> >>>even though i have been calling,nay,begging, for any other Super GM to play >>>Fritz for quite some time now..i think the rest of the chess world,and certainly >>>the pundits who grace these pages will agree,that Kasparov should no longer be >>>the "Automatic " choice to play Fritz >>> >>>lets the game begin!! >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>PS..and i am also expecting him to burst out into quite a tantrum if he does >>>lose tomorrow >>>some thing to the effect of..."i dont like the 3d glasses..waa.waa!" >>>OR >>>"everyone os cheating!!" >> >> >> Everything can happen: we can only speculate about >> the outcome in this [much too] short match. It is >> my hope that the computer program will loose. Not >> because of Kasparov but due to the fact that the >> best programs do still play a lot of dubious moves. >> Their chess understanding is not more than 2100 >> Elo, their tactical skill however 3400 Elo and this >> is sufficient to beat all humans who try to fight >> the silicon monsters with tactical means. And in this >> respect, Kasparov is a good opponent for computers. >> I admire his dynamic style and his courage to play >> in the same way vs computers, but this may be too >> dangerous today even for the best chess player of >> all times. If on the other hand humans would follow some rules: >> 1) never try to play for a win in even slightly better positions >> 2) avoid to get in time trouble >> 3) no opening experiments, sound, cautious but not passive set up >> 4) exchange of pieces whenever possible without weakening the position >> in particular the queens >> 5) playing a "do-nothing-but-do-it-well-strategy" >> 6) no games under time control 40'/40, better higher >> then it will even for a 2000 Elo-player be possible to get a lot >> of draws and high rated players would hardly ever lose a single >> game. And as a result of this, the Elo rating of the best programs >> would be 2200-2300 instead of 2800. >> Kurt > >You can hardly follow these rules if you want to win (or even draw) a match >versus the machine. > >I see no reason to not play for the win if you have a slightly better position. >If you have some strategical pluses and the position is relatively easy to play >for the human you should always try to win. > >Michael Hi Michael I fully agree with you and it's clear that nobody would be interested in organizing such events if strong human players would follow my rules. With my statement I only wanted to say that the programs Elo ratings are so high only because humans play their normal style. Kurt 2800 under
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