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Subject: No - it is not the charta. it is us.

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 13:24:14 11/13/98

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On November 13, 1998 at 13:40:34, Ed Schröder wrote:
>You missed my point. Nobody is asked to leave.

>I said that the charter of CCC isn't working. That's my opinion after one
>year CCC. That does not mean I don't like CCC anymore. I have seen the
>former moderators wrestling with several cases. Days, weeks of work. I
>see the same happening with the current moderators.

nobody has said democracy works or is easy.

>I just read Bruce saying:

>   "There is a difference between complaining about some business
>    policy and calling someone some nasty name because of their
>    business policy.  It's not clear exactly where to draw the line,
>    although it's easy to say that there should be a line."

>I agree with Bruce. But the problem is we all have a different opinion
>about this "line". What is allowed and what is not? As a result people
>don't know where they stand and moderators having a full time job on
>every new case that shows up.

>- Ed -

if you cannot define the line, and each guy interpretes it different, than
problems have to come out of course.

IMO it is not the line that cannot be defined.
it is the fact that interpretation is done different.

when somebody calls me a liar, and his post is not deleted,
and i am thrown out because i said that somebodys profession stamps for the
private life (if you are a priest or a teacher e.g.), or i shall post with a
disclaimer meanwhile the moderator has to have 3 disclaimers himself...
there is something NOT IN BALANCE.





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