Author: Matthew Hull
Date: 14:12:30 11/20/03
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[snip] >>>>>It has been tested once in a Rebel vs. Crafty match where Crafty was given a 100 >>>>>to 1 time advantage. The match was aborted after Rebel won the first game. >>>> >>>> >>>>Look a crafty on ICC, with barely a 2x hardware advantage it goes toe-to-toe >>>>with Rebel, Shredder, Tiger, etc. None of those programs dominate crafty. So >>>>your "friendly" _little_ jibe is demonstrated to be bogus. ;) >>> >>> >>>ICC is mainly blitz. >>> >>>Longer time control help the stronger programs. >> >> >>The CCT history suggest commercial advantages are not that large. GCP already >>told Bob he did not want to play a match with Crafty on Opteron 4-way. If >>Crafty or Ferret shows up somewhere on a 32-way or higher, are you going to put >>your money on a commercial entry? >> >>I didn't think so. > >I expect Crafty18.15 not to lead the ssdf even if it gets hardweare that is 6 >time faster than A1200 > >The gap between Crafty and Shredder7.04 is 197 elo and even the optimistic >prediction of 70 elo per doubling the speed do not give it 197 elo. > >I expect Crafty18.15 to get better rating than shredder7.04 in case that it gets >hardware that is 6 times faster if the games are done at 1 minute/40 moves. > >If you use better hardware than A1200 and 120/40 or something close to it that >is done in the world championship then I expect Crafty to lose even with >hardware advantage of 10:1 Crafty is now 19.4. Read main.c to see the improvements since 18.14. Also, Axel says, "Crafty is back" in the tournament he runs. Your argument is out of date by over a year. > >> >> >>> >>>You can find that Crafty against GNuchess with significantly better hardware >>>lose at blitz but does better at long time control. >>> >>>I guess that same is going to happen to the opposite direction if you try Crafty >>>against the top commercial programs. >> >> >>Should be easy enough to test on ICC with willing participants. And maybe Rebel >>and Crafty meet in CCT6. >> >>MH > >CCT6 is more than twice faster than 120/40 and rebel is not the best commercial >program. Amir's example was Rebel versus Crafty. :) MH > >Uri
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