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Subject: Re: About CC-events in the US

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 15:51:16 11/20/03

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On November 20, 2003 at 17:09:12, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On November 20, 2003 at 16:47:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>The gap between Crafty and Shredder7.04 is 197 elo and even the optimistic
>>prediction of 70 elo per doubling the speed do not give it 197 elo.
>
>Some people think 70 ELO is low for a 2x speedup.
>
>http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/ciancarini94comparison.html
>
>"For instance, some experiments found that improving 5 times the running time of
>such an algorithm the playing strength of a chess programs improves about 200
>Elo points."
>
>Their reference for that is:
>
>K.Thompson, "Computer Chess Strength", Advances in Computer Chess 3, M.R.B.
>Clarke (Ed.), Pergamon Press, (1982), 55-56.
>
>That would mean a 2x speedup was worth 80 ELO.


1982? C'mon, this is stone age in CC.


11 Chess Tiger 15.0  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2719   25   -24   824   60%  2647

20 Chess Tiger 15.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz    2664   34   -33   433   52%  2648

17 Hiarcs 8.0  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz       2684   22   -22   996   53%  2663

40 Hiarcs 8.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2586   33   -34   440   42%  2646

13 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz        2716   30   -29   571   61%  2641

25 Deep Fritz  128MB K6-2 450 MHz          2649   22   -21  1071   58%  2589

 4 Deep Fritz 7.0  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz   2760   26   -25   778   67%  2635

23 Deep Fritz 7.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz      2650   36   -35   392   54%  2623

14 Gambit Tiger 2.0  256MB Athlon 1200     2713   29   -29   583   58%  2654

26 Gambit Tiger 2.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz    2640   28   -27   674   64%  2538

21 Shredder 5.32  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz    2660   26   -26   713   51%  2654

35 Shredder 5.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz       2606   25   -25   759   54%  2580


76 points difference on average.

However A 1200 256MB hash compared to K6 450 MHz 128MB hash is rather 3x than 2x
speedup.
So 2x speedup was worth on average 50-55 points at SSDF recently.

Michael



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