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Subject: Re: About CC-events in the US

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:34:49 11/21/03

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On November 21, 2003 at 04:39:22, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On November 20, 2003 at 23:23:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>[snips]
>
>>How about doing a couple of things:
>>
>>(1) tell the entire story.
>
>The whole story is on: http://www.rebel.nl/match.htm
>
>
>>(a) one game doesn't mean _anything_.  (b) Ed
>>played multiple games with crafty and rebel having a _very_ long time for
>>each move.
>
>>Crafty won.
>
>Crafy lost, see the above link.

I will look.  When you first had it up (chess 2010 or whatever it was) I
remember something like 3:0.  I'll refresh my memory as I saved it somewhere.


>
>
>>Does that prove anything?  Nope, other than the
>>one handicap game was meaningless.
>
>>(2) I'll be _happy_ to take you on at 100:1 time odds, anything you think
>>you are ready.  I'll even put up a wager to make it interesting.  I am
>>talking about a match of at least 10 games.  Interested?  You'd be
>>stupid if you were.  Because I wouldn't play _any_ program at that time
>>handicap, including the original Sargon...
>
>I would take the bet against the Crafty of that time, which was the point.
>
>
>
>>>>But that's not good for business, ist it?  It looks to me that the status quo
>>>>favors your interests.
>>>>
>>>
>>>So it's the money motive working here ? This would be an object lesson on how to
>>>bring industry giants and ivy-league colleges to their knees: make them travel,
>>>or make them get a $50,000 sponsor.
>>>
>>>Amir
>
>
>>It is _several_ things.  The biggest is that we have an organization
>>that was formed with the sole purpose of fostering interest in computer
>>chess "around the world".  It is no longer living up to that charter.
>>It is now fostering computer chess interest in Europe, mainly.  Which
>>is fine.  I've already re-named it to the ECCI or ECGA, which is much
>>more descriptive...
>>
>>It is easily possible to get a company to provide hardware, and some
>>publicity money, and even some prize money.  But not a big chunk of
>>change that goes into a black hole called the JICGA, which won't
>>benefit the donor whatsoever...
>>
>>If you tax someone too much, they move away.
>
>You don't know about the failed negotiations tries of the ICGA in the US, nobody
>knows.
>
>My best,
>
>Ed



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