Author: Peter Berger
Date: 17:20:26 11/26/03
For information about setup and rules: http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?329237 Looks strangely familiar? - yes, the controversial setup of game 2 again. Space advantage vs. pawn - OK, nothing new, we get this in every other game. This time after the "novelty" 27. Nf4 Junior reached less than nothing - it's just too drawish. In 1985 there was some upset in our little rural chessclub - a computer had proven hat KRBKR was a forced win, amazing. Dunno how this came up, and of course these days we know better - many if not most of these positions are a draw. But surely not all of them - KRBKR is dangerous to the extreme, especially if the defending king is restricted to the back row - Crafty deals with these positions as a draw statically in general (my humble and very possibly wrong judgement after watching the game and evals , no analysis of source coude ) - dary judgement by the engine. Not to have to deal with general criticism about setup I spent quite some time tonight with the best and fastest computer I could come up with in analysis - of course with all the 5-piece tablebases, to make sure the problem is for real. It is - Crafty is not aware that KRBKR is just mean, even with 5 piece tablebases, something very similar (identical in fact) to the actual game would have happened. Game 6 featured 0.00 evals by Crafty for about 30 moves, until the huge fail-low. (all comments without any warranty at all of course) Standing: Junior 2 - Crafty 1 ( 3 draws) Peter [Event "Blitz:120'+10""] [Site "Berlin"] [Date "2003.11.26"] [Round "6"] [White "Junior 8.0.0.2"] [Black "Crafty 19.4"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "E25"] [Annotator "P233-PIV2.0GHz"] [PlyCount "189"] [TimeControl "7200+10"] {16MB, Junior8.ctg, P233MMX } 1. d4 {1} Nf6 {5} 2. c4{0} e6 {3} 3. Nc3 {0} Bb4 {3} 4. f3 {0} d5 {3} 5. a3 {0} Bxc3+ {3} 6. bxc3 {0} c5 {3} 7. cxd5 {0} Nxd5 {4} 8. dxc5 {0} f5 {(Da5) 3} 9. e4 {0} fxe4 {4} 10. Qc2 {0} O-O {(e3) 4} 11. fxe4 {0} Qh4+ {3} 12. g3 {0.75 101} Qf6{1} 13. Bg2 {0} Qxc3+ {4} 14. Qxc3 {0} Nxc3 {3} 15. Bf4 {0} Bd7 {4} 16. Ne2 {1.12 566} Na4 {1}17. Bd6 {1.12 150} Rc8 {(Te8) 1} 18. e5 {1.20 152} Bc6 {1} 19. Bh3 {1.20 276} Bd7 {5} 20. Rc1 {1.13 190} Na6 {271} 21. c6 {1.08 2} Rxc6 {223} 22. Rxc6 {0.97 0} bxc6 {203} 23. Kd2 {1.01 0} N6c5 {212} 24. Bg2 {1.00 0} Nb7 {247} 25. Rc1 {0.63 0} Nxd6 {292} 26. exd6 {0.54 0} Rc8 {61} 27. Nf4 {0.53 249} Nb6 {(c5) 4} 28. Ke3 {0.67 173} Kf8 {(c5) 291} 29. h4 {0.89 235} Re8 {(c5) 179} 30. Nd3 {0.77 495} Rd8 {5} 31. Nc5 {0.65 119} Bc8 {175} 32. Ne4 {0.71 2} e5 {163} 33. Rxc6 {0.67 34} Bb7 {127} 34. Rc5 {0.47 86} Bxe4 {71} 35. Kxe4 {0.51 393} Rxd6 {5} 36. Rxe5 {0.42 722} Nc4 {5} 37. Rc5 {0.32 338} Nxa3 {162} 38. Bf1 {0.32 41} Re6+ {158} 39. Kd5 {0.29 193} Re3 {5} 40. g4 {0.26 476} h6 {(Sb1) 5} 41. h5 {0.14 186} Nb1 {(Ke7) 154} 42. Kd4 {0.24 71} Re1 {(Ta3) 77} 43. Bc4 {0.47 125} Nd2 {(Ke7) 151} 44. Bd5 {0.30 74} Rd1 {(Sf1) 506} 45. Ke3 {0.58 55} Nf1+ {(Sb1) 135} 46. Ke2 {0.42 198} Ra1 {5} 47. Rc7 {0.42 73} Nh2 {(Ta5) 50} 48. Rf7+ {0.54 95} Ke8 {26} 49. Rxg7 {0.47 205} Ra5 {6} 50. Bb3 {0.38 239} Nxg4 {128} 51. Rxg4 {0.41 0} Rxh5 {50} 52. Rg7 {0.41 86} a5 {124} 53. Kd3 {0.38 0} Rh4 {(Tg5) 120} 54. Ra7 {0.43 71} Rb4 {(h5) 117} 55. Bc4 {0.59 32} Kd8 {(h5) 114} 56. Kd4 {0.51 55} Rb1 {111} 57. Bd5 {0.53 0} Ke8 {(h5) 135} 58. Ke5 {0.63 38} Rb5 {(h5) 165} 59. Kd6 {0.59 45} Rb6+ {105} 60. Kc5 {0.59 0} Rf6 {(Tb1) 91} 61. Kd4 {0.58 49} Kf8 {(h5) 96} 62. Rh7 {0.49 70} Rf4+ {(h5) 94} 63. Ke5 {0.56 33} Rf1 {128} 64. Bc4 {0.49 0} Rh1 {(Tf3) 87} 65. Kf6 {0.65 34} Ke8 {48} 66. Be6 {0.81 0} Kd8 {79} 67. Rd7+ {0.82 0} Ke8 {77} 68. Rd5 {0.80 0} Rf1+ {76} 69. Bf5 {0.82 0} a4 {(h5) 73} 70. Re5+ {0.88 31} Kf8 {43} 71. Ra5 {0.87 4} Re1 {67} 72. Rxa4 {0.88 1} h5 {(Te2) 69} 73. Ra7 {0.91 39} Re2 {75} 74. Ra3 {0.91 0} Re1 {73} 75. Ra4 {0.91 0} Re2 {69} 76. Ra7 {0.91 0} Re1 {68} 77. Rh7 {0.91 0} Rg1 {67} 78. Bh3 {0.92 90} h4 {103} 79. Rc7 {0.93 0} Re1 {57} 80. Be6 {0.93 21} Rf1+ {114} 81. Bf5 {1.53 0} Re1 {53} 82. Rf7+ {1.53 0} Ke8 {59} 83. Rh7 {1.53 74} Kd8 {128} 84. Rd7+ {11.15 0} Ke8 {46} 85. Rd4 {11.32 0} Rf1 {(Kf8) 54} 86. Rxh4 {327.56 2} Rxf5+ {47} 87. Kxf5 {327.56 0} Kd7 {4} 88. Rh6 {327.57 0} Kc7 {4} 89. Re6 {327.58 0} Kb7 {(Kd8) 3} 90. Kf6 {327.59 0} Kb8 {(Kc8) 3} 91. Re7 {327.60 0} Ka8 {(Kc8) 3} 92. Kf7 {327.61 0} Kb8 {4} 93. Ke6 {327.62 0} Ka8 {3} 94. Kd6 {327.63 0} Kb8 {3} 95. Kc6 {327.64 0} 1-0 And the ChessBase-PGN version: [Event "Blitz:120'+10""] [Site "Berlin"] [Date "2003.11.26"] [Round "6"] [White "Junior 8.0.0.2"] [Black "Crafty 19.4"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "E25"] [Annotator "P233-PIV2.0GHz"] [PlyCount "189"] [TimeControl "7200+10"] {16MB, Junior8.ctg, P233MMX } 1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 2. c4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 3. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bb4 { [%emt 0:00:03]} 4. f3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 5. a3 { [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxc3+ {[%emt 0:00:03]} 6. bxc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 { [%emt 0:00:03]} 7. cxd5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nxd5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 8. dxc5 { [%emt 0:00:00]} f5 {(Da5) [%emt 0:00:03]} 9. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} fxe4 { [%emt 0:00:04]} 10. Qc2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {(e3) [%emt 0:00:04]} 11. fxe4 { [%emt 0:00:00]} Qh4+ {[%emt 0:00:03]} 12. g3 {[%eval 75,13] [%emt 0:01:41]} Qf6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 13. Bg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qxc3+ {[%emt 0:00:04]} 14. Qxc3 { [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxc3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 15. Bf4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bd7 { [%emt 0:00:04]} 16. Ne2 {[%eval 112,14] [%emt 0:09:26]} Na4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 17. Bd6 {[%eval 112,14] [%emt 0:02:30]} Rc8 {(Te8) [%emt 0:00:01]} 18. e5 { [%eval 120,16] [%emt 0:02:32]} Bc6 {[%emt 0:00:01]} 19. Bh3 { [%eval 120,16] [%emt 0:04:36]} Bd7 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 20. Rc1 { [%eval 113,16] [%emt 0:03:10]} Na6 {[%emt 0:04:31]} 21. c6 { [%eval 108,17] [%emt 0:00:02]} Rxc6 {[%emt 0:03:43]} 22. Rxc6 { [%eval 97,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} bxc6 {[%emt 0:03:23]} 23. Kd2 { [%eval 101,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} N6c5 {[%emt 0:03:32]} 24. Bg2 { [%eval 100,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nb7 {[%emt 0:04:07]} 25. Rc1 { [%eval 63,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nxd6 {[%emt 0:04:52]} 26. exd6 { [%eval 54,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rc8 {[%emt 0:01:01]} 27. Nf4 { [%eval 53,14] [%emt 0:04:09]} Nb6 {(c5) [%emt 0:00:04]} 28. Ke3 { [%eval 67,14] [%emt 0:02:53]} Kf8 {(c5) [%emt 0:04:51]} 29. h4 { [%eval 89,14] [%emt 0:03:55]} Re8 {(c5) [%emt 0:02:59]} 30. Nd3 { [%eval 77,16] [%emt 0:08:15]} Rd8 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 31. Nc5 { [%eval 65,14] [%emt 0:01:59]} Bc8 {[%emt 0:02:55]} 32. Ne4 { [%eval 71,14] [%emt 0:00:02]} e5 {[%emt 0:02:43]} 33. Rxc6 { [%eval 67,14] [%emt 0:00:34]} Bb7 {[%emt 0:02:07]} 34. Rc5 { [%eval 47,16] [%emt 0:01:26]} Bxe4 {[%emt 0:01:11]} 35. Kxe4 { [%eval 51,16] [%emt 0:06:33]} Rxd6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 36. Rxe5 { [%eval 42,17] [%emt 0:12:02]} Nc4 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 37. Rc5 { [%eval 32,16] [%emt 0:05:38]} Nxa3 {[%emt 0:02:42]} 38. Bf1 { [%eval 32,14] [%emt 0:00:41]} Re6+ {[%emt 0:02:38]} 39. Kd5 { [%eval 29,16] [%emt 0:03:13]} Re3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 40. g4 { [%eval 26,16] [%emt 0:07:56]} h6 {(Sb1) [%emt 0:00:05]} 41. h5 { [%eval 14,14] [%emt 0:03:06]} Nb1 {(Ke7) [%emt 0:02:34]} 42. Kd4 { [%eval 24,12] [%emt 0:01:11]} Re1 {(Ta3) [%emt 0:01:17]} 43. Bc4 { [%eval 47,13] [%emt 0:02:05]} Nd2 {(Ke7) [%emt 0:02:31]} 44. Bd5 { [%eval 30,12] [%emt 0:01:14]} Rd1 {(Sf1) [%emt 0:08:26]} 45. Ke3 { [%eval 58,13] [%emt 0:00:55]} Nf1+ {(Sb1) [%emt 0:02:15]} 46. Ke2 { [%eval 42,14] [%emt 0:03:18]} Ra1 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 47. Rc7 { [%eval 42,13] [%emt 0:01:13]} Nh2 {(Ta5) [%emt 0:00:50]} 48. Rf7+ { [%eval 54,14] [%emt 0:01:35]} Ke8 {[%emt 0:00:26]} 49. Rxg7 { [%eval 47,14] [%emt 0:03:25]} Ra5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 50. Bb3 { [%eval 38,14] [%emt 0:03:59]} Nxg4 {[%emt 0:02:08]} 51. Rxg4 { [%eval 41,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxh5 {[%emt 0:00:50]} 52. Rg7 { [%eval 41,14] [%emt 0:01:26]} a5 {[%emt 0:02:04]} 53. Kd3 { [%eval 38,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rh4 {(Tg5) [%emt 0:02:00]} 54. Ra7 { [%eval 43,14] [%emt 0:01:11]} Rb4 {(h5) [%emt 0:01:57]} 55. Bc4 { [%eval 59,13] [%emt 0:00:32]} Kd8 {(h5) [%emt 0:01:54]} 56. Kd4 { [%eval 51,15] [%emt 0:00:55]} Rb1 {[%emt 0:01:51]} 57. Bd5 { [%eval 53,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke8 {(h5) [%emt 0:02:15]} 58. Ke5 { [%eval 63,12] [%emt 0:00:38]} Rb5 {(h5) [%emt 0:02:45]} 59. Kd6 { [%eval 59,14] [%emt 0:00:45]} Rb6+ {[%emt 0:01:45]} 60. Kc5 { [%eval 59,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rf6 {(Tb1) [%emt 0:01:31]} 61. Kd4 { [%eval 58,14] [%emt 0:00:49]} Kf8 {(h5) [%emt 0:01:36]} 62. Rh7 { [%eval 49,14] [%emt 0:01:10]} Rf4+ {(h5) [%emt 0:01:34]} 63. Ke5 { [%eval 56,13] [%emt 0:00:33]} Rf1 {[%emt 0:02:08]} 64. Bc4 { [%eval 49,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rh1 {(Tf3) [%emt 0:01:27]} 65. Kf6 { [%eval 65,13] [%emt 0:00:34]} Ke8 {[%emt 0:00:48]} 66. Be6 { [%eval 81,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd8 {[%emt 0:01:19]} 67. Rd7+ { [%eval 82,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke8 {[%emt 0:01:17]} 68. Rd5 { [%eval 80,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rf1+ {[%emt 0:01:16]} 69. Bf5 { [%eval 82,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} a4 {(h5) [%emt 0:01:13]} 70. Re5+ { [%eval 88,14] [%emt 0:00:31]} Kf8 {[%emt 0:00:43]} 71. Ra5 { [%eval 87,16] [%emt 0:00:04]} Re1 {[%emt 0:01:07]} 72. Rxa4 { [%eval 88,18] [%emt 0:00:01]} h5 {(Te2) [%emt 0:01:09]} 73. Ra7 { [%eval 91,16] [%emt 0:00:39]} Re2 {[%emt 0:01:15]} 74. Ra3 { [%eval 91,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re1 {[%emt 0:01:13]} 75. Ra4 { [%eval 91,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re2 {[%emt 0:01:09]} 76. Ra7 { [%eval 91,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re1 {[%emt 0:01:08]} 77. Rh7 { [%eval 91,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rg1 {[%emt 0:01:07]} 78. Bh3 { [%eval 92,17] [%emt 0:01:30]} h4 {[%emt 0:01:43]} 79. Rc7 { [%eval 93,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re1 {[%emt 0:00:57]} 80. Be6 { [%eval 93,17] [%emt 0:00:21]} Rf1+ {[%emt 0:01:54]} 81. Bf5 { [%eval 153,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re1 {[%emt 0:00:53]} 82. Rf7+ { [%eval 153,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke8 {[%emt 0:00:59]} 83. Rh7 { [%eval 153,17] [%emt 0:01:14]} Kd8 {[%emt 0:02:08]} 84. Rd7+ { [%eval 1115,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke8 {[%emt 0:00:46]} 85. Rd4 { [%eval 1132,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rf1 {(Kf8) [%emt 0:00:54]} 86. Rxh4 { [%eval 32756,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} Rxf5+ {[%emt 0:00:47]} 87. Kxf5 { [%eval 32756,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd7 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 88. Rh6 { [%eval 32757,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kc7 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 89. Re6 { [%eval 32758,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kb7 {(Kd8) [%emt 0:00:03]} 90. Kf6 { [%eval 32759,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kb8 {(Kc8) [%emt 0:00:03]} 91. Re7 { [%eval 32760,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ka8 {(Kc8) [%emt 0:00:03]} 92. Kf7 { [%eval 32761,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kb8 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 93. Ke6 { [%eval 32762,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ka8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 94. Kd6 { [%eval 32763,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kb8 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 95. Kc6 { [%eval 32764,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 1-0
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