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Subject: Re: NO Congrats to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 05:41:05 11/30/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 08:38:19, George Sobala wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 08:28:22, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On November 30, 2003 at 07:05:36, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>
>>>What a WCCC. I guess all participants and TDs are a few years older by now and
>>>need some vacations ;-)
>>>
>>>Anyway, big compliments and congrats to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen and his great
>>>program Shredder. Also congrats to the very unlucky Frans Morsch and his Fritz.
>>>Both programs really played great chess!
>>>
>>>About the 3-fold repetition issue - after Gian-Carlo's statement here, that
>>>Jonny didn't know about 3-fold repetition at all, but only the fritz-gui,
>>>i'll think the decision made by the TD was finally correct.
>>
>>It matters not that the engine could not detect a 3-fold, it is a draw according
>>to the rules of chess, just like the 50-move rule or checkmate.  Also, an
>>operator is not allowed to force his engine to take a lower result.  That's
>>throwing the game and thus illegal, unethical, and cheating all at the same
>>time.  The TDs allowed it thus nullifying the result of the tournament.
>>
>>MH
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Gerd
>
>It is not an automatic "draw according to the rules of chess", only if claimed.
>It seems it was not claimed.


The software being used claimed a draw.  If the operator had not intervened, the
draw would stand with no questions asked.

Is this not so?

If so, then the human intervention to turn the = to a 0 is wrong.

Matt



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