Author: Bob Durrett
Date: 14:15:23 11/30/03
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On November 30, 2003 at 16:37:17, Dieter Buerssner wrote: >On November 30, 2003 at 13:57:19, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 30, 2003 at 13:22:20, Dieter Buerssner wrote: >>>Note, we first see the move, and then the info: "game drawn", which can easily >>>be interpreted as not correct. >> >>No it can't. Because to play a game of chess, you are required to _move_ the >>pieces, and _press_ the clock. That is why humans have "blind rules" for a >>player that can't see. And the rules explain this very clearly. If the >>draw is a repetition before the move is played, > >I am not sure, you read my post carefully. Neither do I find any indication in >the FIDE chess rules, that would support your point. I looked at: >http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE101 > >There I find: >--- >9.2 The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by the player having the move, when >the same position, for at least the third time (not necessarily by sequential >repetition of moves) > >a) is about to appear, if he first writes his move on his scoresheet and >declares to the arbiter his intention to make this move, or > >b) has just appeared, and the player claiming the draw has the move. >--- > >Crafty made a move, and then claimed the draw. This seems not to be in >accordance with the above rule. I also looked at the rules for handicapped >players at http://www.fide.com/official/handbook.asp?level=EE2. I cannot find >anything, that supports your point. Please point it out to me. > >Regards, >Dieter > >PS. I don't want to say, that those rules are particually suited for engine >matches. But that is another problem. I would like to agree with the first sentence in your "PS." Rules for tournaments between chess-playing programs cannot be identically the same as the rules for tournaments between chess-playing humans. What should be done by the tournament organizers is to publish the revisions to the standard rules. For example, they could say: "This tournament between chess-playing programs will fillow the FIDE rules except as follows" after which a list of rule modifications should be given. The rule modifications would fairly and equitably make allowances for the unique circumstances. This is similar to what is done for handicapped humans, I presume. The computers do not have hands and other human artifacts and so are "handicapped." Better yet would be a completely automated tournament involving no human intervention at all. Maybe that is for the future. Bob D.
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