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Subject: Re: NO Congrats to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Author: martin fierz

Date: 01:22:16 12/01/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 15:45:51, Matthew Hull wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 15:34:45, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On November 30, 2003 at 08:28:22, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It matters not that the engine could not detect a 3-fold, it is a draw according
>>>to the rules of chess, just like the 50-move rule or checkmate.  Also, an
>>>operator is not allowed to force his engine to take a lower result.  That's
>>>throwing the game and thus illegal, unethical, and cheating all at the same
>>>time.  The TDs allowed it thus nullifying the result of the tournament.
>>>
>>>MH
>>
>>why "NO congrats"?
>>
>>shredder played on weaker hardware than fritz, and still beat it in the playoff.
>>ok, there is a bad TD decision involved, that is true.
>>
>>but i certainly would say "congrats to SMK" - not for the title, but for writing
>>a program that played the best chess in graz, even on inferior hardware. i
>>haven't bought any chess programs since fritz 7, but i will get the new
>>shredder!
>>
>>SMK has little to do with this - if you want to bash somebody, try the
>>tournament director...
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin
>>
>>PS: would it have been legal for jonny's operator to resign for his engine when
>>shredder was showing +10, and his engine probably showed a huge minus score?
>
>
>That is entirely beside the point.  In this circumstance, the opposing software
>obtained a draw, and said as much in the game.  To then accept a win as a gift
>from the opposing operator is bad, wrong and unethical to say the least.  It is
>a disgrace.
>
>Why then the congratulations?

for writing the best chess program around perhaps?

cheers
  martin



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