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Subject: Re: NO Congrats to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 17:37:42 12/01/03

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On November 30, 2003 at 11:12:48, Alastair Scott wrote:

>On November 30, 2003 at 08:28:22, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>It matters not that the engine could not detect a 3-fold, it is a draw according
>>to the rules of chess, just like the 50-move rule or checkmate.  Also, an
>>operator is not allowed to force his engine to take a lower result.  That's
>>throwing the game and thus illegal, unethical, and cheating all at the same
>>time.  The TDs allowed it thus nullifying the result of the tournament.
>
>It's deja vu all over again :)
>
>I've forgotten which match it was (they've merged into a blur) but there was a
>big hoo-ha when a draw offer was considered to be improperly made by an
>operator. It's the same issue this time round - when an "offer" or "claim" is
>made, who (or what) ultimately is doing the offering or claiming?
>
>My immediate solution to ambiguity was to completely cut the operator out of the
>loop. However, even if two programs were autonomous, there would still be
>anomalies in exceptional circumstances: for example, program A improperly misses
>a threefold repetition, program B does and refuses to continue, therefore A sits
>there expecting a move until B's clock runs out and A claims a win on time ...
>which is clearly absurd.
>
>I think some gigantic committee is going to have to thrash out issues like this
>for months and come up with a boring document which covers as many situations as
>it can envisage ;)
>
>Alastair

There is a special case:  What if the game has been going on for hundreds of
moves with no end in sight?  Reason must prevail.  The tournament needs an
adjudication procedure after a fixed number of moves, such as 50 or 100.

My uneducated guess is that there is still a little room for improvement in the
rules.  : )

Bob D.



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