Author: Ralph Stoesser
Date: 08:45:16 12/03/03
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On December 01, 2003 at 13:27:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On December 01, 2003 at 09:03:29, Francesco Di Tolla wrote: > >>>I thought the main argument was about Jonny's unability to detect the draw by >>>itself and to void any game decisive claims from the GUI, which should only act >>>as a dumb input/output device for entering/displaying moves/board. >> >>For sure Jonny did not issue a draw request an this is point one of the story. >> >>Second the GUI did show a pop-up caliming a three fold repetition did happen, >>but not asking to apply the three-fold repeptition rule and ask for a draw. >> >>This happends because the Fritz GUI acts as a home-user interface and stops the >>game declaring the repetition and scoring draw. Hence that interface is not >>suited for tournaments in the sense that it should have a tournament mode in >>which it explicitly asks for the draw instead of declaring it. > > >You do _not_ "ask for a draw" in this circumstance. You _claim_ it. See >the FIDE rules of chess. To "ask" implies that it can be refused. It >can _not_ be refused unless an error has been made. In the case of a computer, >making a repetition statement is the same as making a claim... IMHO The Chessbase GUI always implicitly claim a draw in the case of a threefold repetition. This is because it does not only popup a info message about the threefold repetition, but it also flag the game as draw. That means there should had happened a implicit draw claime before, otherwise the game should not end automatically in a draw in this case. So if the TD argues that a info message about a threefold repetition is not equivalent to a draw claim, he has not considered the fact that the GUI not only show the info message but also flag the game as a draw! So it's intention should be clear: It _has_ claimed draw and therefore the game is scored a draw. Game over. Regards, Ralph
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