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Subject: Re: Does Rebel10 recognize transpositions ??

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 00:41:51 11/19/98

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On November 17, 1998 at 12:44:58, Francois Bertin wrote:

>On November 16, 1998 at 13:14:30, Komputer Korner wrote:
>
>>On November 12, 1998 at 17:26:09, Francois Bertin wrote:
>>
>>>On November 12, 1998 at 15:40:45, greg moller wrote:
>>>
>>>>Reading KKorner's review I got the impression that Rebel10 'does not support
>>>>transpositions'... Can anybody attempt to clarify this statement ? It would seem
>>>>odd for a program that boasts such a tremendous book to fail to recognize
>>>>transpositions.
>
>>> Yes, it does. When I enter my games in Rebel for analysis or storing
>>>purposes, I am generally in the program's book for several moves,
>>>and then the game gets out of it. However, a few moves later Rebel's
>>>book often shows up again with suggestions. This, I believe, is a book
>>>transposition. When I red KK's review of Rebel 10, I was puzzled by his
>>>statement about the absence of transposition. Perhaps he meant books
>>>made by the user and not Rebel's original opening book. I have not yet
>>>noticed a transposition in a user-made book, either in the MVS or RBM
>>>format, but then I have not worked much with such books. I am just
>>>beginning to dwelve into that aspect of the program with books I have
>>>made about the King's Gambit Muzio, King's Bishop Gambit and Albin's
>>>Counter Gambit... :-)
>
>>Rebel will recognize only transpositions that have specifically been inputted by
>>it's authors. Any other transposition is not recognized by Rebel. Contrast this
>>with the ctg files that can be used as opening books within Fritz 5 and Junior
>>5. They recognize all transpositions and I do mean ALL.
>
>  In a recent post, Ed Schröder alluded to the possibility that future
>versions of Rebel would have their opening book solely based on the
>EOC database. He seemed to think that one of the positive aspects of
>this would be to improve the learning process of the program. Perhaps
>transposition possibilities would also be markedly improved?
>
>                                 François Bertin

It may improve the transpositional awareness some but GMs are forever tricking
their opponents in heretofore unseen transpositions. The only sure way is to
have a position based book structure like Bookup, CDB  and  Fritz/Junior
ChessBase files have.
--
Komputer Korner



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