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Subject: Re: NO general bug that Junior 5 opp. don´t save games!!!

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 13:59:44 11/19/98

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On November 18, 1998 at 20:20:24, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On November 18, 1998 at 15:51:41, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>On November 17, 1998 at 15:35:03, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On November 17, 1998 at 12:43:49, Hannu Wegner wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Christophe,
>>>>
>>>>It is nice to hear that Chess Tiger 11.7 support the autoplayer 232 now. Does
>>>>your program also support the Chess 232-pc-board? Or do plan to support
>>>>pc-board? I do not know when you want to release your program. I would like to
>>>>buy one copy if it is avalable. If you don't want to publish your program in the
>>>>next time, it would be a pleasure for me to help testing the pc-board-support
>>>>(if you like).
>>>>
>>>>Best greetings,
>>>>Hannu Wegner
>>>
>>>Yes, Chess Tiger 11.7 does support Auto232.
>>>
>>>I have not written the support code for rs232 PC board. I am not planning to do
>>>so, because:
>>>
>>>1) I don't have a rs232 PC Board, so I cannot test. Writting something without
>>>being able to test at home is almost impossible, even if people are willing to
>>>test it for me. I had to wait until I received an Auto232 kit (cable+software)
>>>to be able to implement Auto232, and it was not a ten minutes job.
>>>
>>>2) Tiger will be available as an additionnal engine for Rebel, so it will
>>>benefit from all Rebel's nice features. I focus on engine strength rather than
>>>adding features into Tiger. Auto232 support was absolutely necessary to further
>>>improve the engine, rs232 pc board support is not.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>About Junior5 Autoplayer
>>Junior5 mostly save games against other Win-programs, but almost never against
>>Dos-programs, so Í´m afraid that Tiger never saves them in matches against
>>Junior5.
>
>
>That is an interesting information for Amir, although he did not write the
>autoplayer code he may guide the author towards a solution.
>
>I have found someone (not Thorsten BTW) who has volunteered to run a test
>session Tiger/Junior. First, I am going to implement a small log file manager
>into Tiger, so whatever happens in the match will be sent to a text file. When I
>complete this work, I send Tiger to the tester and I will get the log file in
>return.
>
>If Amir is interested (he is certainly), I will share my informations with him,
>or with all the group if there is an interest for this here.
>
>Next I am planning to include an autosave feature in my program so the games
>will be saved, whatever happens. This way it will be possible to test Tiger
>against Junior before a fix is released.
>
>
>
>>But this don´t mean that the "learning" is influenced on other Dos-
>>programs. Junior5 plays until mate or draw when winning and resigns typically
>>around -10 when losing. Of course a lot of game is resigned by the opponents
>>too usually when they scores between -7 and -10 but Junior adjucates the game as
>>a win and tries to repeat the opening again. If Junior is down a lot and the
>>other program breakes the game as a win at more than +5 (rebel) it don´t repeat
>>the same opening again.
>>
>>Looks forward for some testing of Tiger!
>
>
>Are you a SSDF tester ?
>
>Thank you for answering!

Yes I have been a member from the beginning and I have done testing since the
old Challenger10 until right now when I´m testing McPro8 and  Rebel10
After 30 games McP8 looks good. Rebel10 plays very good and don´t seem to have
the trouble of losing the same game time after time, because of the large book.
The result is very good but we are not allowed to tell anyone.
I hope your program will be released with an auto-player it´s very
time-consuming to play manually.
Good luck with your program!

Bertil
>    Christophe
>
>
>>
>>Bertil



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