Author: Jeremiah Penery
Date: 21:15:19 11/19/98
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On November 20, 1998 at 00:00:30, Komputer Korner wrote: >On November 19, 1998 at 15:03:04, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On November 19, 1998 at 14:32:44, Komputer Korner wrote: >> >>>On November 19, 1998 at 04:49:14, Albert Silver wrote: >>> >>>>On November 18, 1998 at 20:14:37, wayne johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>>Microsoft dos may end; but, there is still alot of dos machines being used. >>>>>I have a few dos chess programs that compute much faster and more >>>>>accurately--then supposedly better windows counter-parts--when I run them on a >>>>>486 intel 100mz chip. There are quite a few chessplayers at my local club who >>>>>only own an ibm xt and they seem to do just as well in their ratings. So if you >>>>>have children and can't really afford a IBM clone that runs at 300mz--and the >>>>>professional chess software programs that also cost alot of green. I don't >>>>>forsee a complete end to dos..... >>>> >>>>Quite true. Here in Brazil, apart from the really rich companies, 386's and >>>>486's are the norm. Even a few innovative (for Rio) newstands control their >>>>sales and inventory with a low-end machine. Besides, the future of OSs seems to >>>>be either limited to bloatware or Linux (though music program specialists seem >>>>to like beOS). Time will tell. For a funny article on the upcoming Windows 2000, >>>>you might like to see John Dvorak's article in PC Magazine Online: >>>>http://www8.zdnet.com/pcmag/insites/dvorak/jd.htm >>>> >>>> Albert Silver >>> >>>Isn't it true that to load an OS on a PC one needs the CDROM drivers and the >>>only way to do this on machines that don't boot from the CDROM is to first load >>>the CDROM drivers via DOS? >>>-- >>>Komputer Korner >> >>Maybe for some end-of-life hardware. Any reasonably new CD-ROM drive supports >>ATAPI, and as you already know, if the BIOS on the machine is up to it, bootable >>CD-ROM is available, so the OS software can start installing without any >>diddling around. If the BIOS doesn't support bootable CD-ROM, you can of course >>still boot from a floppy. That is usually a DOS floppy (as you suggest above), >>but it doesn't have to be. It could be a boot image for any OS (Linux comes to >>mind as an alternate to DOS). >> >>Dave Gomboc > >Okay thanks for the CD lesson. However doesn't WIN 9X first boot to DOS before >starting WIN 9X? So doesn't this mean that DOS is tied up with WIN 9X and can't >be separated from it? >-- >Komputer Korner In Windows previous to 9x (3.1, etc.), Windows was installed on top of a separate DOS program, to pretty much add a GUI, multitasking, etc. to DOS. In Win9x, it is not so clear. DOS is now built in to Win9x, instead of being a separate program. I think in Win 3.x, CD-ROM drivers still had to be loaded from DOS for the CD to work in the Windows environment (someone correct me if I'm wrong :), but in Win9x, the DOS drivers are NOT loaded (unless you put them in config.sys/autoexec.bat and force them to load). Windows even removes the relevant lines in those two files during its install. The reason is simply that they are not needed, because Windows now uses its own drivers, not DOS ones. Forgive me for rambling, and if I'm making no sense. I need some sleep, bad. :) Jeremiah
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