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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 07:51:50 12/13/03

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On December 13, 2003 at 08:07:03, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>I think we agree more than disagree.

OK

>A resign feature is, IMHO, an excellent
>idea.  If Zappa ever plays in an event like RWBC or WBEC-Ridderkerk, it will
>have resign on so that it doesn't waste their CPU cycles.  If Zappa was playing
>a human, I would set it to resign at -5 or so.  And if Zappa's score was at -5,
>I think that it would have a _very_ small chance to win, and the game would be
>very boring to watch.  And if I was playing a test game, I'd probably resign for
>Zappa. And if Zappa was playing in a computer-computer tournament with a manual
>operator, I'd resign at -5 so not to waste his time, or if it was the last game
>of the round, etc.
>
>So in 99.9% of the situations I agree with you.

OK

>However, in the one corner case
>we are talking about (CCT6), none of those conditions apply.  With a fully
>automated system, when the score reaches -5, I'll just minimize the window, and
>observe other players games/chat with the author/watch some anime/whatever.  And
>I will never complain that someone else doesn't resign against Zappa.  Because
>ultimately, its not over till the fat lady sings :)

OK, maybe we can set this as an option. If the games as seeing live apply this
rule.
If they are not, who cares.
When people will look at the games, after the event, they can stop checking the
game when they want...

>
>anthony
>
>P.S. there are numerous loopholes with forcing the program to resign at -10.
>The most obvious are "Report score as score / 1000" and "Report score as
>max(score, -9.99).

No, if we can check this is not set by the programmer. The idea is not to damage
someone, but help indirectly everybody...so they should apply it...

Sandro



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