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Subject: Re: Shredder crushing Chess Tiger.

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 12:10:58 12/16/03

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On December 16, 2003 at 02:34:52, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 16, 2003 at 02:12:24, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On December 15, 2003 at 23:00:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On December 15, 2003 at 15:45:18, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 14, 2003 at 23:07:59, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 14, 2003 at 19:53:22, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 14, 2003 at 13:26:33, Richard Sutherland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, I know you all probably know this already, but although Shredder is the
>>>>>>>World Champion I am a little surprised at the ease with which it is crushing
>>>>>>>Chess Tiger 15 in my mini-match right now. I am playing an auto232 match between
>>>>>>>two identical PC's (Intel 2.54Gb) an game in one-hour and Shredder is leading
>>>>>>>5-0 with two draws at this time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wonder if there is some tweaking I need to do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shredder 7.04 is clearly the class of the field of the current crop of programs.
>>>>>>It seems from looking over the games from the WC. The new Shredder will still be
>>>>>>the top class program again on the SSDF IMO over Fritz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any word when the new Shredder will be sold? It is the only program I will buy
>>>>>>anymore. The play of Fritz has not made me want to shell out 100 bucks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why not? Technically it won WCCC 2003. Sure Shredder has the title, but I don't
>>>>>really think a person believes it deserves it other than the actual Shredder
>>>>>team.
>>>>
>>>>The majority of the people did, not otherwise! Only a few people were against
>>>>and they were very against.
>>>>
>>>>This is unbelievable!
>>>
>>>No it isn't.
>>
>>I am referring to the fact that someone tells that only the Shredder team
>>support this.
>>How can one can make such statements?
>>How does someone knows what nearly all people think about that?
>>
>>I can accept that one say, like you, that you do not agree, but one can speak
>>only for himself.
>>
>>>It is the _direct_ result of a horrible decision made by a TD
>>>without thinking it through.
>>
>>Again this is your and some people opinion, not everybody's opinion.
>>
>>>  This is why we have the rule that says the
>>>operator can _not_ influence the game.
>>
>>Darse statements said a different story...again I think he know more tham me and
>>you.
>>
>>> This is why it is imperative that
>>>the TD enforce that rule.  This is exactly what happens when he abdicates
>>>his responsibilities and tries to do what he thinks avoids making him look
>>>the worst in front of the participants.
>>>
>>>This is your legacy for a year.  Not that it was your fault.  But the title
>>>_was_ tainted.  The TD decision was horrible.  The title will _forever_ have
>>>an "*" beside it.
>>
>>We only accepted the TD decision. We cannot be blame for it.
>
>I have some questions.
>
>Did shredder's interface claim 3 time repetition after Jonny's move?

I don't know. I was not in Graz.
We should not had to since we saw we were winning.

>Did you ask the TD what to do about it before you continue?

I don't know.

Anyway I got very pest off of this story.
I want to get fun to win on the board and not discuss this again and again.
As I said I prefer not to protest ever and leave the decisions to the TD.
I am interested in improving my book and on the games, not in the legal aspects
rules etc...I leave them to the TD.

Sorry, but I am really tired of this story.

I will not reply to any post on this matter anymore as well as similar problems
which may occur in other tournaments.

I will leave this forum from now on and concentrate on the opening book only.
Sorry, but all this is really too much.

I do not like all this is like to be somehow accused to have stolen something.

Therefore if somebody wants to get in touch with me will have to send me an
e-mail, but I will not reply unless we are talking about games and not other
aspects.

I am not escaping, but all this has been really too much and not fun at all.

Good luck to everybody

Sandro

>
>Uri



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