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Subject: Re: 12th WCCC, Bar-Ilan University: why not to go.

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 03:11:49 12/17/03

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On December 14, 2003 at 20:21:44, Matthew Hull wrote:

>On December 14, 2003 at 02:39:21, Johan de Koning wrote:
>
>>On December 12, 2003 at 01:53:04, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>>On December 12, 2003 at 01:40:25, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 10, 2003 at 10:36:44, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 10, 2003 at 02:46:34, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>c) lots of wasted time and I loved every minute of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is this the European way or just the ICGA way?
>>>>
>>>>My point was that the WCCC is an event.
>>>>An event by & for humans, not by & for computers.
>>>>Barking madness, as you call it, is part of the event.
>>>>Technicalities (organizational and electrical) are part of the event.
>>>>They can be discussed, but still they are technicalities.
>>>>
>>>>Humans are pretty smart (even the ones that fail to agree with me :-).
>>>>They can easily survive and multiply with only 1 hour "work" per day.
>>>>The rest of their lives is about wasting time (aka money) in an
>>>>enjoyable manner. Creating a chess program is enjoyable. Pitting it
>>>>against others is enjoyable, and even if it isn't, learning why not
>>>>is enjoyable. Going to the movies is enjoyable. And finally, joining
>>>>the WCCC *can* be enjoyable.
>>>>
>>>>However, optimizing an event like the WCCC for time is like compressing
>>>>LotR for a 22' time slot: an interesting challenge, but a completely
>>>>different thing. And while I'm with the analogy, [snipped more blah].
>>>>
>>>>... Johan
>>>
>>>I completely grok what you are saying.  However, the happy medium between a
>>>leisurely event and an efficient, cost-effective event must be balanced
>>>according to the needs of the _World's_ participants
>>
>>The _World_ is not going to help your side of the argument. :-)
>>
>>> with the primary goal of
>>>the event in view.
>>
>>If you don't mind me repeating: there is no primary goal.
>
>I think you are confusing your goals (none) with everyone else's.
>
>>The event can be experienced on many different levels, by many
>>people. The WCCC cross table might be the primary *motivation*
>>for a handful of contenders. But a 5-round 2-day event would
>>challenge the motivation of the other 100 persons, and probably
>>even of the contenders.
>
>In your eyes, the US ideal gets shorter and shorter.  Soon you'll be claiming we
>advocate a 24 hour, 6 round event, each game a 4 hour sudden death.
>
>>
>>>  Instead, it seems to us that they are balanced by only
>>>considering the needs of Europeans (and relatively near nieghbors) who have
>>>loads of liesure time to burn.
>>
>>Well, of course there is the optimal balance, as a function of the
>>expected (or desired!) crowd. Even Europens would be freaked out by
>>a 4-week event. :-) But considering the actual event days are only
>>half of the time wasted, 9 days is fair, 7 days is more fair, and 3
>>days is not fair. Remember that to "us" it seems that USans typically
>>waste 50 weeks at the office,
>
>
>Aha.  The mystery of why there are no European footprints on the Moon is solved.
> It is somewhat similar to the reason why the Irish have never conquered the
>world.  Whiskey was invented first.

But the "Scotch" did conquer the world :)


>
>... Matt (busy)
>
>>rendering the complaints about a few
>>too many days of quality time a bit silly. :-)
>>
>>... Johan



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