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Subject: questions about ancient computer chess history

Author: martin fierz

Date: 01:45:14 01/12/04

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On January 12, 2004 at 04:15:35, Peter Berger wrote:

>On January 12, 2004 at 03:45:44, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2004 at 00:23:19, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On January 11, 2004 at 16:42:15, martin fierz wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 11, 2004 at 16:11:06, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 10, 2004 at 16:24:59, Jim Bodkins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The US doesnt play chess really. USCF has 90,000 members out of 1/3 billion
>>>>>>people and just went bankrupt (over about $300,000 - chump change to a pro
>>>>>>basketball player) and had to sell its store to an english firm. Most of the top
>>>>>>US players (USCF) are immigrants not native.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm a native American, so dont get mad. We play baseball not chess. Chess isnt
>>>>>>culturally a part of the US at all. People (Garry) come here mainly because of
>>>>>>money not chess. Chess software doesnt interest most programmers in my
>>>>>>experience. OS's, databases etc do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The US will get hammered, but the guys will probably have fun anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>... oh, and we do Mars missions. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>I believe people on this message board have forgotten their history. :) Shannon
>>>>>was American, the revolutionary programs MacHack and CHESS were American, the
>>>>>world champions Belle, Deep Thought, and Cray Blitz were American.
>>>>
>>>>you are forgetting the first computer chess programmer - alan turing, not
>>>>exactly american :-)
>>>
>>>WHAT?!
>>>
>>>Claude Shannon is American...
>>>
>>>And he was before Turing...
>>
>>i won't claim shannon wasn't american. but AFAIK turing was there first. he was
>>the guy who played a computer chess game by computing moves of his program
>>himself on pieces of paper ;-)
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin
>
>Neither of them were first.

hi peter,

nice! i didn't know about that plankalkuel program. so it was a german who
invented computer chess! and of course it took a german to point that out :-)
(no offense intended of course - it's just funny that this kind of thing often
also happens in physics, where different countries usually give different people
credit for the same thing - and of course always "their own").

at what time exactly did he write that program, do you know?

also interesting is that the page you referenced

>http://www.zib.de/zuse/Inhalt/Programme/Plankalkuel/Chess/chess.htm

says shannon was first if you disregard zuse's work. while

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/comphis.htm

says turing was before shannon.

does anybody have details on ancient computer chess history?

cheers
  martin



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