Author: Matthias Gemuh
Date: 07:08:39 01/13/04
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On January 13, 2004 at 06:49:24, Tord Romstad wrote: > >Or rather, you didn't see any problems in the limited experiments you >performed. Engine authors who study log files of the communication >between the GUI and the engine in a long series of games can easily >spot problems which are unnoticed by ordinary users. > >>If anybody would really consider that a major professional chess software >>publisher intends to make dirty hashize tricks against enginges which are >>*hundreds of elos weaker*, then I'd say even an average intelligent 12 year old >>would have a better sense for reality. > >Engines like Deep Sjeng and Ruffian are most definitely not "hundreds >of elos weaker" than any of the CB native engines. > >For the record: I personally think this is just a bug in the CB GUIs, >and not an intentional attempt to cripple UCI engines. But the problem >is very real, and I am very disappointed that CB does not seem to be >interested in fixing it. > >If you are unaware of the history: There is a good reason why a lot of >people suspect an attempt of cheating from CBs side. This is not the >first time there is a serious problem with the support for non-native >engines. A few years ago, there was a "Winboard adapter" for the CB >GUIs, which was notorious for its non-standard implementation of the >protocol, and which seriously crippled many of the strongest Winboard >engines. > >Again, I don't think this was an attempt to cheat, but it is >disappointingly unprofessional when coming from a company like ChessBase. >I would personally prefer that they removed all support for UCI and/or >Winboard engines from their GUIs rather than that they keep using some >sort of buggy or non-standard interface. > >Tord Hi Tord, I will not talk about the ChessBase autoplayer that crippled CB opponents so much that people stopped using it. The autoplayer was probably simply uni-directionally buggy. If I had a true alternative to the ChessBase GUI, I would simply ignore ChessBase and be free of their tricks or bugs. It is simply super annoying that now that they have me hooked up, they apparently limit the most important bug-fixings to writing polite e-mails. /Matthias.
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