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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 vs Hiarcs 9 30 games

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 02:29:06 01/26/04

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On January 25, 2004 at 19:10:55, Thomas Mayer wrote:

>Hi Thorsten,
>
>>> Ok prove it. Open your server database and please post all games you have
>>> including all losses and draws.
>
>> is this implying that YOU did NOT post all games INCLUDING all losses ??
>> aha.
>> i see.
>
>this accusation is absolutely idiotic - have you even take a LOOK at the games
>the posted ?

no.

>Have you realized that the rounds counter is increased game by game
>just by ONE ??? Do you think she has cheated this PGNs ?

no.
I do not believe that somebody is cheating.
Why should i. but it is the standard answer you get when you post game material
in a forum. Post 1 game and they say:

only ONE game. Where are all the losses of program X.
Post 10 games and they say: only 10 games, where are all the losses of program
X.

chessfun can generate more data (played on 3' blitz) i could ever answer with
40/40 or 40/120 games on my machines. i cannot win this race. :-))

to get 30 40/120 games takes a while-.


>Instead this implies only that we have not seen any game posted by you yet...

and ?
when i post them those games are ONLY A FEW, or they are not ALL games.
so what.

it's unimportant.


>Just a statement and a server rating... So give your conclusion some evidence
>instead accusate Sarah to cheat...

i do not accusate sarah to cheat. on the other hand, why is she asking for ALL
games. why should anybody not post ALL games and instead post only a sample that
would be in favour of ONE program.

the accusation is in the sentence she posted. not in my request.
of course if somebody has games he posts ALL games. thats the usual way when
presenting data.


>I am very sure that Sarah never has and never
>will.


blabla.

i never said that she is cheating. all i said is that her data makes IMO not
much sense.



> With some of YOUR results I am not very sure... e.g. once there were
>several questions about opening book choices in your games at your tourneys
>which you never really answered... is that YOUR testing method ?

you complain about an accusation that never happened and come with an accusation
in return :-))

the programs play with the books they come with. the autoplayer plays the game,
its the program that decides which opening is played.

in the case of movei a file was not installed because a zip file was corrupted.
uri complained about this and the game was repeated with the right book file
installed.

Once the autoplayer is started , the user has no influence on the opening line
that is chosen.

for the professionals you have to click on OPTIMAL in the chess base GUI's and
the amateurs usually have an INI file that is loaded in arena.

you should know this, because you are using the autoplayer system for a long
time.




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