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Subject: Re: Watch Olithink

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:28:49 01/27/04

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On January 27, 2004 at 03:01:48, Dr. Oliver Brausch wrote:

>On January 27, 2004 at 00:44:58, Axel Schumacher wrote:
>
>>It seems that the latest changes in Olithink are worth a closer look. Hopefully
>
>Do not forget that 4.13 will have some fine improvements (thanks to
>Dann Corbit and Michel Langeveld). The first tests showed that it could
>be about 100 ELO points stronger.
>
>>the engine will find it's way in CCT6. I just made a very first Blitz-test
>>against Deep Fritz 8 and guess who won?
>
>That is nearly unbelievible. OliThink never won against the big
>names (some draws against Crafty, that's it)
>
>Where did Deep Fritz 8 blunder?

Deep Fritz8 blundered by 6...e6

I do not have Deep Fritz8 but here is Fritz8's analysis
Fritz8 never considers e6 to be the best move

It is simply losing a pawn.

I am happy that I did not buy Deep Fritz8 because the game proves that this
program has serious bugs.

I already criticized Fritz8 for being not materialistic and Fritz8 lost against
my stupid movei at 120/40 because it sacrificed 2 pawns and got nothing for it.

It seems that deep Fritz8 is even worse based on this game

New game - Yace Paderborn
[D]r1bqkbnr/p3pppp/2p5/3P4/8/8/PPP2PPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 8:

6...Qxd5 7.Qxd5 cxd5 8.Nc3 Nf6 9.Nb5 Kd7 10.Bd3
  =  (0.16)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  47kN
6...Qxd5 7.Qxd5 cxd5 8.c4 Nf6 9.Nc3 e6 10.cxd5 Nxd5 11.Bd3
  =  (0.12)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:00  142kN
6...Qxd5 7.Qxd5 cxd5 8.Nc3 Nf6 9.Be3 a6 10.0-0-0 Bg4 11.f3
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:00  259kN
6...Qxd5 7.Qe2 Qa5+ 8.Nc3 Nf6 9.Qc4 Bb7 10.Bd3 Rd8 11.0-0 e6
  =  (0.16)   Depth: 10/29   00:00:02  876kN
6...Qxd5 7.Qe2 Nf6 8.Nc3 Qa5 9.Bf4 Bd7 10.Be5 Qb6 11.0-0-0 Rd8 12.f3
  =  (0.12)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:09  3100kN
6...Qxd5 7.Qe2 Nf6 8.Nc3 Qa5 9.Qf3
  =  (0.12)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:22  7667kN
6...Qxd5 7.Qxd5 cxd5 8.Nc3 Nf6 9.Be3 a6 10.0-0-0 e6 11.Bd3 Bd6 12.Ne2 Rb8 13.Bd4
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 13/35   00:00:52  18521kN
6...Qxd5 7.Qe2 Rb8 8.Nc3 Qc5 9.Ne4 Qe5 10.f4 Qe6 11.Nc5 Qxe2+ 12.Bxe2
  =  (0.12)   Depth: 14/37   00:04:11  94151kN

(Blass, Tel-Aviv 27.01.2004)




Here is for comparison the game of fritz8 against movei.

It seems that it is typical for Fritz to sacrifice and get nothing for the
sacrifice and lose the game.


[Event "christmas2003"]
[Site "Athlon C-1200, 40/122"]
[Date "2003.12.05"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Fritz8.0.0.5"]
[Black "movei00_8_131"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D23"]
[Opening "QGA"]
[Variation "Mannheim variation"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:40/7200:7200"]

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.d4 d5 3.c4 dxc4 {(d5c4 d1a4 b8c6 e2e3 c8d7 a4c4 e7e6 c1d2 f8d6 c4b3
b7b6 b1c3) 0.10/11 88} 4.Qa4+ Nc6 {(b8c6 b1c3 e7e6 a4c4 f8b4 c1g5 e8g8 a2a3 b4c3
c4c3 h7h6 g5f6 d8f6 e2e4) 0.07/12 122} 5.Nc3 Nd5 {(f6d5 a4c4 d5b4 c4b3 c6d4 f3d4
d8d4 c3b5 d4c5 b5c7 c5c7 b3b4 c8f5) 0.16/11 147} 6.e4 Nb6 {(d5b6 a4d1 e7e6 f1e2
f8b4
a2a3 b4c3 b2c3 e8g8 e1g1 f7f6 c1e3 d8d6 f3d2 c6a5) 0.28/13 209} 7.Qd1 f5 {(f7f5
e4e5
e7e6 f1e2 f8e7 e1g1 e8g8 c1f4 b6d5 f4d2 d5c3 d2c3) 0.35/12 241} 8.Be3 fxe4
{(f5e4
f3e5 c6e5 d4e5 d8d1 a1d1 e7e6 c3e4 b6a4 b2b3 a4b2 d1d4 f8b4 e3d2 c7c5 e4d6 e8d7)
0.26/12 175} 9.Nd2 Nxd4 {(c6d4 d2e4 e7e5 d1h5 e8d7 e3d4 e5d4 a1d1 c7c5 e4c5 d7c6
f1e2
d8e7 c3e4) 0.33/11 264} 10.Ndxe4 Nf5 {(d4f5 d1d8 e8d8 e3b6 a7b6 a1d1 f5d6 e4g5
d8e8
f1c4 a8a5 c3d5 a5c5 c4e2 e7e5) 0.30/11 43} 11.Qxd8+ Kxd8 {(e8d8 e3b6 a7b6 a1d1
f5d6
f1c4 c8g4 c4e2 g4d7 e2f3 d8c8 e1g1 e7e5 d1d5 a8a5) 0.41/12 45} 12.Rd1+ Nd6
{(f5d6
e3b6 a7b6 f1c4 c8g4 c4e2 g4d7 e2f3 d8c8 e1g1 e7e5 d1d5 a8a5 d5d2) 0.45/13 107}
13.Ng5 Ke8 {(d8e8 e3b6 a7b6 c3d5 a8a5 d5c7 e8d7 c7d5 d7d8 g5f3 c8e6 d5e3 d8c8
f3d4
e6f7) 0.94/13 182} 14.Be2 Bf5 {(c8f5 e1g1 h7h6 g5f3 g7g6 f3h4 f8g7 h4f5 g6f5
f1e1
e8f8 e3f4 g7c3 b2c3) 0.85/12 242} 15.a4 Rc8 {(a8c8 a4a5 b6d7 g2g4 f5c2 d1c1 c2d3
e3a7 d3e2 c3e2 e7e5) 0.88/11 158} 16.a5 Nd7 17.g4 Bd3 {(f5d3 e3a7 d3e2 e1e2 d7e5
a7c5 e5g4 g5e6 e8f7 e6g5 f7g8 f2f3 g4f6 e2e1) 1.12/12 78} 18.Ne6 Bxe2 {(d3e2
c3e2
d7e5 e1g1 e8f7 e2f4 e5g4 e3a7 c8a8 a7d4 a8a5 f2f3 g4f6 e6c7 a5g5 g1h1) 1.20/12
281}
19.Kxe2 Kf7 {(e8f7 e6g5 f7g8 g5e6 d7e5 g4g5 e5d3 b2b3 d3b4 e3c5 b4c2 b3c4 d6c4)
1.29/12
129} 20.Ng5+ Kg8 {(f7g8 g5e6 h7h5 g4g5 g8f7 e6f8 h8f8 c3d5 c7c5 g5g6 f7e8 d5f4
h5h4
f4e6 f8g8) 1.27/13 1} 21.Ne6 h5 {(h7h5 g4g5 g8f7 e6f8 h8f8 c3d5 d7e5 e3a7 e5d3
b2b3
e7e6 g5g6 f7e8 b3c4 e6d5 d1d3 d5c4) 1.25/14 813} 22.h3 b6 {(b7b6 a5a6 d7b8 d1a1
g8f7
e6g5 f7e8 h1d1 h5g4 h3g4 e7e5 g5e6 b8c6) 1.18/12 220} 23.Rda1 hxg4 {(h5g4 a5b6
c7b6
h3g4 h8h1 a1h1 d7e5 h1a1 e5g4 a1a7 c8b8 e6f8 g8f8) 1.19/12 319} 24.hxg4 Rxh1
{(h8h1
a1h1 b6a5 e3a7 d7e5 h1h5 e5g4 h5a5 g4f6 a7d4 c8b8 c3d5 c7c6 d5f6 e7f6) 1.13/12
67}
25.Rxh1 Ne5 {(d7e5 a5b6 c7b6 f2f3 g8f7 e6g5 f7e8 h1a1 e5c6 g5e6 e8d7 e6d4 c6d4
e3d4
c8c7) 1.15/12 134} 26.Rh4 Nd3 {(e5d3 b2b3 d3e5 b3b4 e5c6 c3d5 b6a5 b4a5 c6a5
e6f8
c8f8 d5c7) 1.39/11 104} 27.b3 Ne5 {(d3e5 b3c4 e5c4 a5b6 c7b6 e3d4 a7a5 c3d5 b6b5
d5e3 a5a4 e3c4 d6c4) 1.35/13 65} 28.f4 Ng6 {(e5g6 h4h1 c4b3 h1b1 b6a5 b1b3 g8f7
e6g5
f7e8 g5e6 c7c5 c3a4 c5c4 b3c3) 2.01/13 146} 29.Rh1 cxb3 {(c4b3 h1b1 g8f7 e6g5
f7e8
a5b6 c7b6 b1b3 c8c4 g5e6 e8d7 e6f8 g6f8 b3a3 d7c6 e2d3 a7a5) 1.95/14 150} 30.Rb1
Kf7
{(g8f7 e6g5 f7e8 b1b3 e7e5 f4f5 g6e7 a5b6 c7b6 g5e6 c8c4 c3b5 d6f7 b3c3) 1.80/13
72}
31.Ng5+ Ke8 {(f7e8 b1b3 e8d7 a5b6 a7b6 b3b1 e7e6 b1f1 d6c4 g5e6 d7e6 f4f5 e6d7
f5g6
c4e5 c3e4 e5g6) 1.86/15 127} 32.Rxb3 Kd7 33.Nb5 Nxb5 {(d6b5 b3b5 e7e6 a5b6 c7b6
b5b1
c8c2 e2f3 f8c5 b1d1 d7e7 e3c5 c2c5 g5e6 c5c3 f3e4 e7e6 f4f5 e6f7 f5g6 f7g6)
2.00/13
493} 34.Rxb5 e6 {(e7e6 a5b6 c7b6 b5b1 c8c2 e2f3 f8c5 b1d1 d7e7 e3c5 c2c5 g5e6
c5c3
f3e4 e7e6 f4f5 e6f7 f5g6 f7g6) 2.00/12 51} 35.Nxe6 Kxe6 {(d7e6 f4f5 e6f6 f5g6
f6g6
e2d3 f8e7 b5f5 c8d8 d3c4 c7c5 a5b6 a7b6 f5f1) 1.97/12 157} 36.f5+ Kf6 {(e6f6
f5g6
f6g6 b5d5 f8e7 a5b6 a7b6 d5d7 g6f6 e3f4 c7c5 e2d3) 2.00/12 142} 37.fxg6 Kxg6
{(f6g6
b5g5 g6f6 g5f5 f6e6 f5g5 c8d8 e3f4 e6d7 a5b6 a7b6 g5g6 d8a8 e2d3 a8a3 d3e4)
1.94/13
600} 38.Kd3 Be7 {(f8e7 b5d5 g6f7 e3f4 f7e6 d5e5 e6d7 e5f5 b6a5 f5a5 c8a8 d3d4
a8f8)
2.08/12 208} 39.Rd5 Kf7 {(g6f7 a5b6 a7b6 d3c4 f7e6 d5d1 c8a8 c4b5 e7f6 d1e1 a8a1
e1a1
f6a1) 2.17/13 305} 40.axb6 axb6 {(a7b6 d3c4 f7e6 d5d1 c8a8 c4b5 a8a2 e3f4 a2c2
d1e1
e6f7 f4e5 e7f6 e5f6 f7f6) 2.17/13 229} 41.Kc4 Ke6 42.Rd1 Ra8 {(c8a8 c4b5 a8a3
e3f4
a3c3 d1c1 c3c1 f4c1 e6d5 c1b2 g7g6 b2c3 e7c5) 2.27/13 120} 43.Kb5 Ra3 {(a8a3
e3f2
a3a2 f2d4 e7f6 d4e3 a2e2 e3f4 f6e5 f4e5 e2e5 b5c4 e5c5 c4b4 c5c2) 2.43/12 375}
44.Bd4 Bf6 {(e7f6 d4f2 a3b3 b5c6 b3c3 c6b5 c3f3 d1e1 e6d5 e1d1 d5e4 f2e1 f3b3
b5c6
e4f4 d1d7 f4g4 d7c7) 2.45/11 71} 45.Re1+ Kd7 {(e6d7 d4f6 a3a5 b5b4 g7f6 e1f1
d7e6
f1e1 a5e5 e1c1 e5e4 b4b5 e6e5 c1c7 e4g4 c7c6 g4h4 c6b6) 2.48/13 184} 46.Bxf6
Ra5+
{(a3a5 b5b4 g7f6 e1d1 d7e6 d1e1 a5e5 e1c1 e6d6 c1f1 e5e4 b4b5 d6e7 f1c1 e7d7
c1d1 d7e6
d1c1 e4g4 c1c7) 2.50/13 124} 47.Kb4 gxf6 {(g7f6 e1d1 d7e6 d1e1 a5e5 e1c1 e6d6
c1d1
e5d5 d1g1 d5d4 b4b5 d4e4 g1f1 d6e6 f1c1 e4g4 c1c7) 2.50/12 6} 48.Rf1 Ke6 {(d7e6
f1e1
a5e5 e1c1 e6d6 c1f1 e5e4 b4b5 d6e7 f1c1 e7d7 c1d1 d7e6 d1c1 e4g4 c1c7) 2.50/12
115}
49.Rg1 c6 {(c7c6 g1c1 c6c5 b4b3 a5b5 b3c3 b5b4 c1g1 b6b5 g4g5 f6g5 g1g5 b4c4
c3b3
e6d6) 2.65/12 130} 50.Kb3 Re5 {(a5e5 b3b4 b6b5 b4a5 e5e4 g1c1 e6d5 a5b6 e4c4
c1d1
d5e6 d1e1 e6d6 e1d1 d6e5 d1e1 e5d4 e1d1 d4c3) 2.73/12 116} 51.Rc1 Re3+ {(e5e3
b3c4
e3g3 c1e1 e6d6 e1d1 d6c7 d1d4 g3f3 d4d3 b6b5 c4c3 f3d3 c3d3 c6c5 d3c3 c5c4 c3b4
c7c6) 2.80/12 154} 52.Kc2 Rg3 {(e3g3 c2d2 e6d5 c1f1 g3g4 f1f6 b6b5 d2d3 g4g5
d3c2
g5g3 f6f5 d5d4 f5f4 d4c5 f4f5 c5c4 f5f4 c4d5) 2.90/13 140} 53.Re1+ Kd5 {(e6d5
e1b1
b6b5 b1b4 d5e5 c2d2 g3f3 b4b1 e5d4 b1b4 d4d5 d2c2 d5c5) 2.94/13 109} 54.Rd1+ Kc5
{(d5c5 d1f1 g3g4 f1f6 b6b5 c2b3 g4g3 b3b2 b5b4 f6f4 c5b5 f4f7 c6c5 b2c2) 3.01/13
82}
55.Rf1 Rxg4 {(g3g4 f1f6 b6b5 f6f3 b5b4 f3f2 c5b5 f2f6 g4g2 c2d3 c6c5 f6e6 g2g3
e6e3
c5c4 d3e4 g3g4 e4d5) 3.12/13 69} 56.Rxf6 b5 {(b6b5 f6f2 c5c4 c2c1 b5b4 c1b1 g4g1
b1c2 c6c5 f2h2 c4b5 h2h5 g1g2 c2b3 g2g3 b3c2 g3g1) 3.20/13 151} 57.Kb3 Rg3+
{(g4g3
b3b2 b5b4 f6f7 c5b5 f7f4 c6c5 f4f5 g3g2 b2b3 g2e2 f5g5 e2d2 g5f5 d2d3 b3c2 d3d8)
3.30/13 130} 58.Kb2 b4 {(b5b4 f6f4 c5b5 f4f5 c6c5 f5d5 b5c6 d5d8 b4b3 d8a8 c5c4
a8c8
c6d5 c8d8 d5e5 d8e8 e5d6 e8d8 d6c7 d8d1 g3g2 b2c3 g2c2 c3b4) 3.50/14 223} 59.Rh6
Rg2+ {(g3g2 b2b3 c5b5 h6h2 g2g3 b3b2 c6c5 h2h5 g3g2 b2b3 g2d2 h5g5 d2f2 g5h5
f2g2
h5f5 g2g3 b3c2) 3.55/13 155} 60.Kb3 Kb5 {(c5b5 h6h5 c6c5 h5f5 g2g3 b3b2 g3d3
b2c2
d3h3 c2b2 h3h2 b2b3 h2g2 f5e5 g2d2 e5g5 d2e2 g5f5 e2e3 b3c2) 3.55/15 296} 61.Rh8
Rg3+ {(g2g3 b3b2 c6c5 h8h5 g3g4 b2a2 b5c6 h5h6 c6d5 a2b3 g4g3 b3a4 b4b3 h6h5
d5d4
h5h4 d4c3 a4b5 b3b2 h4c4 c3d3) 3.38/13 199} 62.Kb2 c5 {(c6c5 h8h5 g3g2 b2b3 g2d2
h5g5 d2f2 g5d5 f2e2 d5h5 e2g2 h5f5 g2g3 b3c2) 3.55/13 177} 63.Rh5 Rg4 {(g3g4
b2b3
g4g1 b3c2 g1f1 h5e5 f1f2 c2d3 b4b3 d3c3 f2f3 c3d2 b5b4 e5e8 c5c4 e8b8 b4a3 b8a8
a3b2) 3.55/14 40} 64.Kb3 Re4 {(g4e4 h5f5 e4e1 b3c2 e1g1 f5h5 g1g2 c2b3 g2f2 h5g5
f2e2
g5h5 e2d2 h5g5 d2h2 g5e5 h2h3 b3c2) 3.55/15 374} 65.Rf5 Rd4 66.Rg5 Rd8 {(d4d8
g5e5
d8d2 e5h5 d2g2 h5f5 g2e2 f5g5 e2f2 g5d5 f2h2 d5g5 h2h3 b3c2) 3.55/13 145} 67.Re5
Rd7
68.Rf5 Rh7 {(d7h7 b3c2 h7h1 c2b3 h1g1 b3c2 g1g2 c2b3 g2d2 f5g5 d2e2 g5h5 e2e3
b3c2)
3.55/13 124} 69.Kc2 Rg7 {(h7g7 c2b3 g7g1 b3c2 g1g6 c2b3 g6g2 f5e5 g2d2 e5g5 d2f2
g5h5
f2e2 h5f5 e2e3 b3c2) 3.55/15 230} 70.Re5 Rg2+ {(g7g2 c2b3 g2g3 b3b2 b5c4 e5e2
c4d3
e2e8 c5c4 e8d8 d3e3 d8e8 e3d2 e8d8 g3d3 d8d3 d2d3 b2a2 d3c2 a2a1) 3.66/13 210}
71.Kb3 Rg3+ {(g2g3 b3b2 b5c6 e5e4 c6d5 e4f4 c5c4 f4f2 b4b3 f2e2 d5c5 b2a3 g3g1
a3b2)
3.69/14 86} 72.Kb2 Kc4 {(b5c4 e5e2 c4d3 e2f2 c5c4 f2h2 b4b3 b2a3 d3c3 h2f2 g3e3
f2b2)
3.73/13 56} 73.Re4+ Kd3 {(c4d3 e4e7 c5c4 e7d7 d3e3 d7e7 e3d2 e7d7 g3d3 d7c7 c4c3
b2b3
c3c2 b3b2 b4b3 c7c4 d3d7 c4c8 d7d3) 4.05/14 143} 74.Re6 c4 {(c5c4 e6d6 d3e3 d6e6
e3d2 e6d6 g3d3 d6c6 d3b3 b2a2 d2c3 c6g6 b3b2 a2a1 b2e2 g6g1 b4b3 a1b1 e2d2 g1g3
d2d3) 4.20/13 117} 75.Rd6+ Ke3 {(d3e3 d6c6 g3g2 b2b1 e3d4 c6d6 d4c3 d6d1 b4b3
d1h1
c3b4 h1h4 g2g1 b1b2 g1f1 h4h3 f1f2 b2c1) 4.31/13 82} 76.Re6+ Kd2 {(e3d2 e6d6
g3d3
d6c6 c4c3 b2b3 d2d1 b3c4 b4b3 c4d3 b3b2 c6b6 c3c2 b6b2 c2c1q b2h2 c1b1 d3d4 b1b8
h2h7 b8f4 d4c3) 4.50/14 181} 77.Rd6+ Rd3 {(g3d3 d6c6 c4c3 b2b3 c3c2 b3b2 b4b3
c6c7
d2d1 c7c4 d3d2 b2a3 c2c1q c4c1 d1c1 a3b4 d2c2 b4b5 b3b2 b5a6 b2b1q) 15.30/15
710}
78.Rf6 c3+ {(c4c3 b2b3 c3c2 b3a4 c2c1q f6f2 d2e3 f2h2 c1c4 h2h3 e3f2 h3d3 b4b3
a4a3
c4a6 a3b4 a6d3 b4c5 b3b2 c5c6 b2b1q) 19.93/12 265} 79.Kb3 c2+ {(c3c2 b3a4 c2c1q
f6f2
d2e3 f2f5 c1c4 a4a5 d3a3 a5b6 c4a6 b6c5 a6a5 c5c6 a5f5) 20.47/11 196} 80.Ka4
c1=Q
{(c2c1q f6h6 c1c4 h6h2 d2c3 a4a5 c4c7 a5a6 c7h2 a6b6 b4b3 b6b7 b3b2 b7c8 h2h3
c8b7
b2b1q b7c7) 27.48/12 522} 81.Rg6 Qc2+ {(c1c2 a4a5 d3d5 a5b6 c2g6 b6b7 b4b3 b7a8
b3b2
a8a7 b2b1q a7a8 d5a5) M6/11 60} 82.Kb5 Rd5+ {(d3d5 b5b6 c2g6 b6c7 b4b3 c7b7 b3b2
b7c7 b2b1q c7c8 g6c6) M5/9 7} 83.Kb6 Qxg6+ {(c2g6 b6c7 g6e6 c7b7 d5d7 b7a8 e6g8)
M3/4 1} 84.Kc7 Qe6 {(g6e6 c7b7 d5d7 b7b8 e6g8) M2/2} 85.Kb7 Rd7+ {(d5d7 b7b8
e6g8)
M1/1} 86.Ka8 Qg8# {(e6g8) M0/1}  {Matt} 0-1

Uri



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