Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 15:50:23 01/30/04
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On January 30, 2004 at 15:00:00, Rex wrote:
>I believe in his tourney YES S8 won convincingly and YES S8 can be call the
>better program and strongest program in his tourney that he set up, in which
>both sides had equal rules and time.
>
>I too am tired of people saying "not enough games." Hey if you set up a tourney
>and there is a winner, than that person has the right to post the winner as
>the_best_proram and the winner for that particular tourney PERIOD with a dot.
Saying that it is convincing will not fool the people who know what they are
talking about.
You can run a 20 games match again and this time, surprise surprise, you get the
opposite result.
You can call it a "convincing" result as well.
As soon as this has happened to you, you realize that there is a problem. You
can contradict yourself extremely easily.
So you can either continue to call the results "convincing" and claim a
different winner every day, just for fun, or think a little bit about it and
realize that... you have not played enough games to convince anybody with a
brain.
I know the "not enough games" is going to get on people's nerves over time.
However I think it's better to get on people's nerves then to stop fighting
ignorance.
Christophe
>On January 30, 2004 at 13:21:11, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On January 30, 2004 at 12:16:09, George Sobala wrote:
>>
>>>20 games at 30 minutes per game
>>>Played under CB GUI, no ponder
>>>Two comps used, P4-1800 and AMD-1700+,
>>>ten games played on each machine.
>>>32M hash
>>>5moves.ctg opening book (normal, no learning)
>>>3+4 man EGTBs
>>>
>>>Shredder 8 (default) v ChessTiger 15 (gambit) [aka Gambit Tiger III]
>>>
>>>Shredder 8 won convincingly: +10 -4 =6
>>
>>
>>
>>CONVINCINGLY?
>>
>>So it does not matter how many times we explain when a match result is
>>significant and when it is not.
>>
>>This discussion has happened over and over again here. Last time was two or
>>three days ago.
>>
>>And just after explaining the whole stuff once again, you come here and pretend
>>that 13-7 is a convincing result?
>>
>>I'm now CONVINCED that people never learn.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>gt30b MyTown 2004
>>>
>>> 12345678901234567890
>>>1 Shredder 8 00½1½111½1½10½1011½1 13/20
>>>2 Chess Tiger 15.0 11½0½000½0½01½0100½0 7/20
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