Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 05:52:59 01/31/04
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On January 30, 2004 at 08:43:08, Mike S. wrote:
>On January 30, 2004 at 02:47:58, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>(...)
>
>>16 games does not mean anything. Especially in FRC (or even Shuffle chess).
>
>So how many games do we need bevore we are allowed to draw conclusions?
>(Probably we'll never get so many games;
Yes
16 are many for a Man vs. Machine
>match...)
>
>>Some start positions might favour the humans, some might favour the machines.
>
>I don't think so. Actually I believe, ALL FRC positions favour the machines when
>the human - as it's normally the case in FRC AFAIK - doesn't know which position
>will be played, some time before the game and cannot prepare for it.
A 'normal' GM should be always happy if both (top engine and GM) get out of book
as early as possible. This applies also for classical chess.
Rogozenkos performance seems pretty bad. I would expect myself to score at least
50% with the help of a 200 Mhz machine for analysis.
>
>>(...)
>
>>No, top engines are _in general_ relatively weak in the opening phase in
>>classical chess, especially if they evaluate their position slightly worse.
Das war natürlich missverständlich ausgedrückt. Wollte schreiben:
Alle engines spielen in der Eröffnungsphase ohne Buch insgesamt bewertet relativ
schwach.
>
>Take a look at the following game's openings, which were played starting with 3
>bookmoves only:
>Take a look at the following game's openings, which were played starting with 5
>bookmoves only:
[Event "5moves 2004 Ath 1.3/64 90m+30s"]
[Site "Zurich"]
[Date "2004.01.18"]
[Round "8.3"]
[White "Rebel 12"]
[Black "Junior 8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B22"]
[Annotator ""]
[PlyCount "79"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]
1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. d4 cxd4 5. cxd4 d6 6. Nf3 Be6 {Bei diesem Zug
handelt es sich um eine "Neuerung". Der Läuferzug macht natürlich keinen Sinn
und verhindert die natürliche Entwicklung e6,Le7.} 7. Ng5 Nc6 8. Nc3 dxe5 9.
Nxe6 fxe6 10. dxe5 g6 11. Bd2 Bg7 12. Qg4 Qd7 13. f4 Rd8 14. Rd1 Nd4 15. Bc1
Nc2+ 16. Kf2 Qc7 17. Qxe6 Qc5+ 18. Kg3 Nxc3 19. Rxd8+ Kxd8 20. bxc3 Qxc3+ 21.
Kh4 Ne3 22. Bxe3 Qxe3 23. Qd5+ Kc7 24. g3 Rd8 25. Qa5+ Qb6 26. Qxb6+ Kxb6 27.
Bg2 Rd2 28. Rb1+ Ka5 29. Rxb7 Rxg2 30. Kh3 Rd2 31. Rxa7+ Kb5 32. Rxe7 Bf8 33.
a4+ Kxa4 34. Rxh7 Rb2 35. Kg4 Rb6 36. Rf7 Bh6 37. Rf6 Rxf6 38. exf6 Kb5 39. f5
gxf5+ 40. Kxf5 1-0
[Event "5moves 2004 Ath 1.3/64 90m+30s"]
[Site "Zurich"]
[Date "2004.01.25"]
[Round "8.2"]
[White "Fritz 8"]
[Black "Shredder 8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A29"]
[PlyCount "75"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. d3 Bxc3 8.
bxc3 {Mit den folgenden Zügen zeigt Shredder das er überhaupt nichts von der
Eröffnungsvariante "versteht".} Bg4 9. h3 Be6 10. Rb1 Rb8 11. Ng5 Bd7 12. e4 b6
13. f4 exf4 14. gxf4 Qe7 15. Re1 Rfe8 16. Nf3 h6 17. Be3 a6 18. Nd2 Na5 19. Qf3
Nb7 20. d4 Bc6 21. Bf2 Nh7 22. Qg3 Na5 23. Kh2 Qf8 24. Rg1 f5 25. d5 Bd7 26.
Rbe1 fxe4 27. Bxe4 c5 28. dxc6 Nxc6 29. Bd5+ Kh8 30. Ne4 Nf6 31. Nxd6 Ng4+ 32.
hxg4 Qxd6 33. Rd1 Rf8 34. f5 Qa3 35. Qc7 Rfc8 36. Qxd7 Ne5 37. Qa7 Qf8 38. Bd4
1-0
Michael
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