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Subject: Re: Draw or not?

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 01:14:52 12/04/98

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On December 03, 1998 at 19:46:54, Terry Presgrove wrote:

>>>>>>>I have the following position on the board and am thinking over to let the game
>>>>>>>go on or not:
>>>>>>>    +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>>>>  8 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>>>>>>>    +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>>>>  7 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>>>>>>>    +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>>>>  6 |   |   |   |   | K*|   |   |   |
>>>>>>>    +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>>>>  5 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | P*|
>>>>>>>    +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>>>>  4 |   |   | N*|   |   | K | P*| P |
>>>>>>>    +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>>>>  3 |   |   |   |   |   |   | P |   |
>>>>>>>    +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>>>>  2 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>>>>>>>    +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>>>>  1 | B |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>>>>>>>    +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>>>>>      a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>EPD: 8/8/4k3/7p/2n2KpP/6P1/8/B7 w - -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MCP7 has White vs Nimzo98. Is this position to win for white or not? MCP says
>>>>>>>+2.7x while Nimzo98 has -1.7x.
>>>>>>>Analysis welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think it is an easy win for White. CM5500 also says +1.7.
>>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually, be careful; I had CM5500 play it out at 30 minutes per game, and after
>>>>>about 20-25 moves the score is 0.00.
>>>>>James

> I let Crafty v.16.1 with 5Man TB's analyze the position for 10
> minutes and at 19 ply has it + 1.47
> TP

Evals don't count in endgames!
OK, let me enlighten us, I let them play and MCP7.1 won!
It is interesting if any other program would win this endgame too?! Anyone
testing Junior5, Hiarcs6/7 and CM6000?

Here is the whole game, position was reached after black's 100th move:

[Event "auto232"]
[Site "Recklinghausen"]
[Date "1998.12.03"]
[Round "39"]
[White "M-CHESS 7.1"]
[Black "Nimzo 98"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nxe4 4. Qh5 Nd6 5. Bb3 Be7 6. Nf3 Nc6
7. Nxe5 O-O 8. O-O Nd4 9. Nd5 Nxb3 10. axb3 Ne8 11. Qe2 Nf6 12. Nc6 dxc6
13. Nxe7 Kh8 14. Nxc8 Qxc8 15. d3 Re8 16. Be3 a6 17. Rfe1 Kg8 18. Qf3 Qd7
19. h3 Re6 20. Bd2 Rae8 21. Rxe6 Rxe6 22. Re1 Qd5 23. Qf4 Rxe1
24. Bxe1 Qd8 25. Bd2 Ne8 26. Qg4 Kf8 27. Bc3 h6 28. Kh2 Qd6 29. g3 Qe7
30. Bb4 c5 31. Bc3 b6 32. b4 cxb4 33. Bxb4 c5 34. Bc3 a5 35. d4 Qf6
36. Kg2 cxd4 37. Qxd4 Qc6 38. f3 f6 39. Qf2 Nd6 40. Bd4 b5 41. Bc3 b4
42. Bd4 Kg8 43. Ba7 Nc4 44. b3 Ne5 45. Qe2 g6 46. Bd4 Kf8 47. Kf2 Qd5
48. Bb2 Kf7 49. Kg2 Nd7 50. Bc1 h5 51. Be3 Ne5 52. h4 Nd7 53. Qd2 Qxd2
54. Bxd2 Nb6 55. c4 Nd7 56. Be3 a4 57. bxa4 Ne5 58. a5 Nxc4 59. Bc5 b3
60. a6 b2 61. a7 b1=Q 62. a8=Q Qc2 63. Bf2 Ne5 64. Qa7 Ke6 65. Qa6 Qc6
66. Qa3 Qd5 67. Be1 Kf7 68. Qa7 Kg8 69. Qb8 Kg7 70. Qc7 Qf7 71. Qb6 Qa2
72. Bf2 Qe2 73. Qb7 Kf8 74. Qa8 Ke7 75. Qe4 Qxe4 76. fxe4 Kd7 77. Bc5 Kc6
78. Be7 Ng4 79. Kf3 Kd7 80. Bb4 Ke6 81. Bc3 Nh6 82. Kf4 Nf7 83. Bb4 Ne5
84. Ke3 g5 85. Bc3 Ng6 86. Be1 g4 87. Bc3 f5 88. Bb2 Ne7 89. Kf4 fxe4
90. Kxe4 Nf5 91. Kf4 Nd6 92. Bc3 Nf7 93. Ba1 Nd6 94. Bb2 Nf7 95. Bd4 Kd5
96. Bg7 Ke6 97. Bc3 Nd6 98. Bd4 Nb5 99. Be5 Na3 100. Ba1 Nc4 101. Kg5 Nd6
102. Kxh5 Kf5 103. Bc3 Ne4 104. Be1 Nd6 105. Bd2 Ne4 106. Bf4 Nf6
107. Kh6 Ne4 108. h5 Kf6 109. Bb8 Ng5 110. Be5 Kf5 111. Bf4 Ne6
112. Bd2 Kf6 113. Bc3 Kf7 114. Bb2 Kg8 115. Kg6 Nf8 116. Kg5 Nd7
117. Kxg4 Nb6 118. Bd4 Nc4 119. Kf5 Kh7 120. g4 Nd6 121. Ke5 Nf7
122. Kf4 Nd8 123. Bf6 Nb7 124. g5 Nd6 125. g6 Kh6 126. Bg5 Kg7
127. Ke5 Nb5 128. Bc1 Nc3 129. Kf5 Kf8 130. h6 Nd5 131. Ba3 Ke8
132. h7 Kd7 133. h8=Q Ne3 134. Ke4 Nf5 135. Kxf5 Kc6 136. Qc8 Kb5
137. Qb7 Kc4 138. Ke4 Kc3 139. Qb2 Kc4 140. Qb4 1-0

Result so far for MCP7 with white is 7-2 with no draw! Altogether now it is
19.5-19.5.



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