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Subject: Re: Does any "regular" chess program see White's win?

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 19:17:46 02/12/04

On February 12, 2004 at 14:37:30, Roy Eassa wrote:

>[d] n1QBq1k1/5p1p/5KP1/p7/8/8/8/8 w - -
>1. Bc7!! Qxc8 2. gxf7+ Kh8 3. Be5 Qc5! 4. Bb2!! Nc7 5. Ba1!! a4 6. Bb2 a3
>7. Ba1 a2 8. Bb2 a1=Q 9. Bxa1 zugzwang!
>
>Besides programs specifically designed to solve mates, does any program find
>this?

This is another null move killer.

Black has a queen and a knight but no useful moves apparently after Bxa1.

Nullmove may be the best thing to happen to computer chess ever, but its not
perfect.

anthony

Re: Does any "regular" chess program see White's win? Tord Romstad 22:47:40 02/12/04
- Re: Does any "regular" chess program see White's win? Uri Blass 01:18:34 02/13/04
  - Super New Idea!!! [from Uri] Bob Durrett 06:23:38 02/13/04
    - Re: Super New Idea!!! [from Uri] Tord Romstad 08:07:02 02/13/04
      - Re: not using nullmove? Mike S. 09:28:26 02/13/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 09:41:41 02/13/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Christophe Theron 21:38:58 02/13/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 05:57:14 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Christophe Theron 10:16:15 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 09:32:55 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Christophe Theron 11:13:05 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 13:32:53 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Christophe Theron 10:35:38 02/16/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 11:04:33 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 05:53:42 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Christophe Theron 11:08:18 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 14:08:43 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 02:57:50 02/16/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 04:09:29 02/16/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 06:46:24 02/16/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 07:24:26 02/16/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Dieter Buerssner 15:14:45 02/16/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 01:50:16 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Dieter Buerssner 11:09:29 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 12:19:40 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 11:50:04 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 02:44:12 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 04:55:32 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 05:19:28 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 09:03:03 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Dann Corbit 17:55:13 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 02:37:41 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 05:21:41 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 03:38:33 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 05:24:31 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 05:01:34 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 04:15:24 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tim Foden 00:36:14 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Dann Corbit 01:24:54 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tim Foden 04:00:53 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Dann Corbit 10:57:18 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tony Werten 00:03:55 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Dann Corbit 18:00:08 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Dann Corbit 18:02:38 02/17/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Dieter Buerssner 10:47:11 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 08:09:29 02/16/04
        
        gothmog's eval martin fierz 01:53:54 02/17/04
        
        Re: gothmog's eval Tord Romstad 04:36:25 02/17/04
        
        Re: gothmog's eval martin fierz 05:13:45 02/17/04
        
        Re: gothmog's eval Tord Romstad 08:55:48 02/17/04
        
        Re: gothmog's eval martin fierz 23:00:34 02/17/04
        
        Re: gothmog's eval Sune Fischer 06:29:33 02/18/04
        
        Re: gothmog's eval martin fierz 06:33:59 02/18/04
        
        Re: gothmog's eval Sune Fischer 07:36:29 02/18/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 09:00:36 02/16/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 13:55:45 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? martin fierz 14:16:46 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 07:03:22 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Thorsten Czub 10:55:39 02/16/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Christophe Theron 10:19:38 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Roger Brown 05:34:21 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Christophe Theron 11:15:51 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 11:03:10 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Christophe Theron 14:35:35 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Dann Corbit 22:05:46 02/13/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Bruce Cleaver 17:15:58 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Christophe Theron 11:21:25 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Bruce Cleaver 14:13:03 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Tord Romstad 09:35:12 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Dann Corbit 09:59:44 02/15/04
        
        Thanks, Dann! (n/t) Tord Romstad 03:02:05 02/16/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Russell Reagan 19:43:19 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Bruce Cleaver 04:49:56 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Russell Reagan 09:20:47 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Dann Corbit 10:04:10 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Robert Hyatt 07:41:15 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] J. Wesley Cleveland 12:22:36 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Dann Corbit 23:51:01 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Uri Blass 08:24:14 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Russell Reagan 08:02:09 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Robert Hyatt 12:39:13 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? [generalized null move] Uri Blass 01:26:42 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Anthony Cozzie 11:56:44 02/13/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Tord Romstad 01:33:15 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 09:51:08 02/13/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Dann Corbit 23:09:38 02/13/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 02:28:04 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? scott farrell 14:52:45 02/14/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Christophe Theron 11:24:08 02/15/04
        
        Re: not using nullmove? Uri Blass 09:33:02 02/13/04
Re: Does any "regular" chess program see White's win? Slater Wold 22:02:14 02/12/04

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