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Subject: Re: Who is the strongest OTB chess player at CCC?

Author: Peter Fendrich

Date: 04:51:01 02/14/04

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On February 13, 2004 at 10:35:06, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 13, 2004 at 10:13:26, Peter Fendrich wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2004 at 00:28:13, Paul Doire wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>I am interested in knowing the strengths of all who post here.
>>>Whether it is USCF or FIDE.To import chess knowledge into chess programs
>>>seems to require the programmer to be strong or at minimum, their resources to
>>>be strong. Who dares to tell...and dares to tell of those who will not tell.
>>>Some human analysis we see would carry more weight knowing the strength of the
>>>analyst. Do you dare to tell?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Paul
>>
>>I'm quite convinced that the correlation between being a strong chess player and
>>a strong chess programmer is not very high. It's far more important to be a good
>>programmer than a good chess player in order to produce a strong chess program.
>>Of course the programmer must have rather good knowledge about different chess
>>elements but that is not at all the same as being strong in OTB play. I even
>>beleive that a very strong OTB player might have some troubles to lower his
>>level of play to the level of an evaluation function in a chess program...
>>/Peter
>
>I do not agree with the last claim.
>strong players do not need to lower their level of play.
>
>Even 1500 players know about fortress positions when most chess engines do not
>have the knowledge.
>
>This is not a problem for the programmers so for the same reason the fact that
>some programmer is a strong player should not be a problem.
>
>
>If you try to teach a chess program everything that you know you have problems
>and the question if you are a strong player or not strong player is not
>important and the problem is that you simply do not know to give definitions to
>your knowledge.
>
>Uri

I really shouldn't speak for others than myself but I had some troubles with
that and I think that a very strong OTB player might have the same or even more
of it.
Not a big obstacle compared to all others but it's one of them...
/Peter




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