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Subject: Re: Symbolic: A doomed effort, or it's time to get my lead-lined jockstr

Author: Tord Romstad

Date: 05:23:16 02/17/04

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On February 17, 2004 at 08:09:12, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>Actually there is nothing in ML, it is more of a toy language than anything else.

Sad to hear.  Here in Norway the book "ML for the Working Programmer" is often
jokingly called "ML for the Unemployed Programmer", but I thought the reality
wasn't really that bad.  But at any rate, it is always possible to find a job
where you can choose your own tools.

>I love how you just claimed Lisp programmers are "smarter and more
>knowledgeable" then C++ programmers :)

:-)

On average, I am 100% sure this claim is true, although of course there
are also individual C++ programmers who are exceptionally brilliant.
C++ and other mainstream languages are taught to zillions of "code
monkeys" in schools all around the world, and most of those who learn
them are neither very talented nor very interested and dedicated.  The
only thing they care about is to pass their courses and get a job.

More esoteric languages, which are not thought in schools or universities
(at least not in basic courses), attract only a small number of especially
interested people.

Most people believe that choosing a non-mainstream language like Lisp
is very risky, because it is difficult to find new employees who know
the language.  My experience is that precisely the opposite is true.
When you try to recruit a new Lisp programmer, you won't get a big
number of applicants, but those you get are usually very talented,
very enthusiastic, and have a very strong desire to get the job.

Tord



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