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Subject: Re: Is this 2800 level play?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:15:30 02/19/04

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On February 19, 2004 at 12:02:12, martin fierz wrote:

>On February 19, 2004 at 11:22:15, Igor Gorelikov wrote:
>
>>I don't know chess engines that can play good moves in openings without opening
>>book.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Igor Gorelikov
>
>this is not about opening or not opening. ...O-O?? allows Bxh7+ and it's game
>over.

It is not game over because you need also to continue it correctly.
It is probably game over after 0-0 Bxh7+ Kxh7 Ng5+ Kg6 h4 but h4 is not easy to
find.


 my stupid engine will not play O-O on blitz level, and if O-O is played,
>it will play Bxh7+ with a positive (but not winning) score.

Does it see the correct line with h4?
>
>to say the least, i am surprised that such strong engines don't see the problem
>with ...O-O.
>
>cheers
>  martin

I am not surprised because it is not simple tactics.

The question if to play Bxh7+ or not to play it is a question of evaluation
and the problem of having good evaluation is not a simple question.

Yace padderborn also cannot see Bxh7+ in a few minutes on my computer.
I know that yace underestimate king safety but my movei also has problems(it
likes Bxh7+ at small depth but with Kxh7 Ng5+ Kg6 Qd3?  and later changes its
mind from Bxh7+ to Ba3 for positional reasons.

I suspect that if you slightly reduce the value of pawns your muse will be also
unable to find Bxh7+


Uri



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