Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 18:02:08 02/27/04
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On February 27, 2004 at 20:42:09, Uri Blass wrote: >On February 27, 2004 at 20:34:58, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On February 27, 2004 at 20:04:22, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On February 27, 2004 at 19:43:35, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>On February 27, 2004 at 18:58:03, William H Rogers wrote: >>>> >>>>>The whole program really does not have to be exposed, only the evals, as that is >>>>>the main heart of almost every chess program. >>>> >>>>Except for most programs, where the search is the most important part. >>> >>>I agree and I do not feel that the eval is the main heart of my program. >>> >>>I think that the possible ideas for better search without changing the >>>evaluation are huge and I think that I can earn more from better search than >>>from changing the evaluation. >>> >>>I do not claim that the improving the evaluation is not important but it is not >>>important enough to call it the main heart of the program. >>> >>>I remember your opinion that after some time programmers work only on improving >>>the evaluation but I do not think that it is the case and I think that always it >>>is possible to improve both factors. >> >>I probably did not explain it well. What I meant was, that at some point, if >>you do not improve your evaluation, it will greatly hinder the ability to >>improve the search. >> >>So (for instance) if a position should have a static eval of +500 and you give >>it +100, it will destroy your move ordering. So no matter what you do, your >>search will always be slow. You need an accurate evaluation before you can >>improve the search. >> >>That is what I intended to say. I did not state it clearly. > >In this case I do not agree. >improving the evaluation can help to improve the search but it is not the only >way to do it and you can improve the search without improving the evaluation. Do you agree that with a bad eval it will be very hard to improve the search? Do you agree that with an excellent eval, it will be much easier to improve the search? That has been my experience.
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