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Subject: Re: Fruit: new impressions.

Author: Tord Romstad

Date: 10:26:50 03/11/04

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On March 11, 2004 at 06:37:18, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On March 11, 2004 at 06:23:40, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>Hello Djordje!
>>
>>On March 11, 2004 at 06:12:14, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>>
>>>Program X surely plays about 2480-2500 (computer Elo),
>>
>>You are not going to tell us what "Program X" is, I suppose?  :-)
>>
>>>Fruit is _really_ promising.  However, I'd think twice about adding evals >before cleaning up other stuff and adding tablebase access.
>>
>>Fabien has already stated that he does not intend to add tablebase access,
>>but even for authors who want to do it, I would actually warn against doing
>>it early.  It is too easy to get lazy and use tablebases as a substitute
>>for real knowledge about basic endgames.  In my opinion, tablebase support
>>should not be added before the engine is able to handle basic endgames
>>reasonably well on its own.
>>
>>Any news about Geniss Axon, by the way?
>>
>>Tord
>
>
>I agree with your comment, but I think that as it is Fruit is already able to
>handle basic endgames fairly well by simple search.

Maybe.  I haven't seen Fruit in action yet, but hope to do so soon.

>Geniss Axon has been rechristened to Axon, and that's the biggest news for
>now :-(  No time to do more work on it due to many boring (hush, hush)
>university obligations both for Vladimir and myself.

More or less the same situation as the last time I asked, then.  I hope
you'll soon find the time to work on it again.

>As for the unspeakable name of G... (I fear that there is Melkor just around
>the corner...),

:-)

>it's suddenly overtaken poor Axon and is in a class of its own. Now,
>G... is the one to catch :-), not just a fitting sparring partner. Congrats,
>Tord.

Thanks.  I'm sure the situation will be reversed again some day.

Tord



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