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Subject: Re: Fruit: first observations. Not a coconut yet, a budding pomegranate

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:52:36 03/11/04

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On March 11, 2004 at 14:36:21, Tord Romstad wrote:

>On March 11, 2004 at 14:31:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 11, 2004 at 13:05:35, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>
>>>You can try it only if depth remaining is large enough. This way you will not
>>>see significant slowdown, but probably will get better move ordering near the
>>>root.
>>
>>I tried that.  And it didn't help.  The speed loss dropped, but so did the
>>effectiveness of the idea.  Several reported good results in checkers.  I've not
>>seen anyone really "glow" about ETC in chess, however...
>
>I'm glowing.  :-)
>
>It seems to me that ETC is much more effective in an MTD(f) search than
>in a PVS search.  I think most MTDers use ETC.
>
>Another important factor might be the speed of the engine.  It makes
>sense that a sub-200 kN/s-engine like mine will benefit more from ETC
>than a fast engine like yours.
>
>Tord

That isn't a surprise...  mtd researches the same depth multiple times.  I could
see how that would mate well with ETC.  I really wasn't thinking about mtd when
I responded, obviously...  But you provided another important data point to
remember...



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