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Subject: Re: BS 2830 Problem #5 is wrong.

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 04:41:43 03/17/04

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On March 17, 2004 at 06:09:35, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On March 16, 2004 at 18:58:46, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>See this thread:
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?354948
>
>Actually, it's a big problem to find a good tactical testsuite. A month or so
>ago I went through BTS2830, trying the positions on the commercial programs in
>order to understand their search better.
>
>First problem is the false solutions. Rxe6 here is one of them - it's totally
>unclear if it's better than Qh3. Another one was #2 or #3, where the "solution"
>is .. Bh3+. Totally unclear if it's better than just .. Bg4, both are winning.
>
>Second, much bigger, problem is that most of the problems are solved through
>evaluation, not search. I would like positions where there comes a clear moment
>in the search which you have to get to in order to "see" the solution. If I
>remember correctly, there were only 2 or 3 positions in the entire BTS2830 which
>met this criterion.
>
>Third problem is positions which it's possible to "solve" without understanding.
>(This could also be thought of as a problem with the Chessbase GUI which won't
>let you set a score margin.)
>
>It would also be nice to have a testsuite which has a certain consistent level
>of difficulty. WAC is not interesting for this reason.
>
>Anyway, I have some position-by-position notes on BTS2830 in Augsburg, could
>post them next week.
>
>Cheeers,
>Vas


Interesting observations. I too think an ideal tactical testposition has a
certain point where the win is obvious and not a matter of evaluation. Then you
can try how efficient your search works. If evaluation is involved too much the
preferred move has to do with playing style.

regards Joachim



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