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Subject: Re: reason was: Java support missing (or malfunctioning?)

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 05:03:22 03/22/04

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On March 21, 2004 at 20:07:37, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On March 21, 2004 at 19:06:06, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>  b) but they did not go as far as forcing Microsoft to ship the standard
>>version of Java with Windows. That's where is Sun is losing, because Microsoft
>>can get away with murder (having spread a version of Java that was incompatible
>>with the standard, effectively hurting the Java language).
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>Hi Christophe,
>
>If people still want the Microsoft Virtual Java Machine that was "removed", it
>is easily attainable on the internet.
>

Yes , this is still available from Microsoft site - but they were forced to stop
furthur development on this and shipping of non-compliant versions.

>I find the Sun release of Java to be slow, and bogs down even a 2Ghz machine.
>

Sun release used to be a reference implementation - more like a proof of
concept. Ofcourse , once the JIT versions from 1.3 came up , they are much much
better.

>Run two identical computers side by side and have one use the Sun release and
>the other use the MS release, and the MS release wins hands down.
>

You are comparing something that is running java 1.1 and running 1.4 ???
What is the point of comparing different versions ?


>So far I am not losing out on anything. I have Java installed, and I don't have
>any concerns. Lawyers can file all the papers they want, I am still going to use
>the free software I want to use.. _no one_ can tell me differently.
>

You can create viruses in your comp - and no one will tell you anything unless
you release them too :)
Forgetting that , you will ermain locked in to a older implementation , which is
not compliant with any of the newer specs.
Pretty soon , you wont have most of the available functionality available.
Most applet developers continue to support 1.1 which is why , you still dont
have a problem, but this is going to change prety soon ... and then you would
not be able to run most of the newer apps !
It is like saying , I will use only DOS 6.0 and I also want to run win32 apps :)


Mridul

>Peter



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