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Subject: Re: Why dont engines support the egtb format that Chessmaster uses?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:31:09 04/02/04

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On April 02, 2004 at 19:30:32, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On April 02, 2004 at 18:01:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 02, 2004 at 12:55:53, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 02, 2004 at 12:51:58, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 02, 2004 at 12:42:36, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 02, 2004 at 11:46:32, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Vincent, I did not gave you permission to use *my* code in your convertor, or I
>>>>>>am missing something?
>>>>>
>>>>>I am using your code in my engine (with your and Andrew Kadatch's permission).
>>>>>Built into the engine, there is a function, which you can call a converter. It
>>>>>converts (typicall once at setup time) most of the 3 and 4-men tables to an own
>>>>>W/D/L format (they are loaded to RAM then, for fast access).
>>>>>
>>>>>I never thought about it, but now I feel unsecure. Can you comment on this?
>>>>>
>>>>>I also posted a W/D table (as C source) for KPK here - this table was generated
>>>>>from kpk.nbw/nbb
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dieter
>>>
>>>>Dieter, you -- and *everybody* else who ever asked me -- have permission to use
>>>
>>>Not at all, you take on average 2 years to reply to email questions from
>>>authors.
>>
>>No, he usually responds within 2 hours for those of us that don't go around
>>calling him "a fucking idiot..."
>
>Right and he needs 6 months for example for people like Johan Hutting and i can
>list another huge number of european authors there.
>
>Many releases of his FREE software program Celes therefore didn't have EGTB code
>even though he got it to work if i understand well.
>
>I'm sure he responds within 5 minutes to the CCC however, as you can see.
>
>Even crying like a baby that converting 'his' EGTBs is illegal.
>

He owns the copyright to his code and data.  He can choose who can and can't use
them and that is his right and choice to make.

You, on the other hand, can continue to whine, of course...

You act like he owes you something.  He probably does, but he would have to be
up close and personal to deliver it...


>
>
>>
>>>
>>>>the code. The only compensation I (and Andrew Kadatch) ever asked was 2 copies
>>>>of program from commercial authors. One for me, other for some chess-playing
>>>>friends of mine.
>>>>
>>>>Vincent never asked the permission. Somebody who uses (weaked) Vincent's engine
>>>>in the commercial product asked me, and got the permission.
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Eugene



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