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Subject: Re: SSDF(Shredder 7.04 Classic - Shredder 8)A1200, 1½-½, now 13-11

Author: Sam Lloyd

Date: 08:54:14 04/15/04

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On April 15, 2004 at 11:23:43, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On April 15, 2004 at 08:43:10, Sam Lloyd wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2004 at 07:51:25, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2004 at 07:22:55, Sam Lloyd wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2004 at 06:46:28, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 15, 2004 at 06:33:38, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 15, 2004 at 06:06:59, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 15, 2004 at 05:52:41, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On April 15, 2004 at 04:09:40, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Interesting result for "about 50 points stronger" 8 version!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>where did you read "about 50 points stronger"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>regards Joachim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From CSS magazine. At least 40 points in tournament level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>well I doubt that. Together with the fact, that the UCI-Book is probably a bit
>>>>>>better optimized than the Chessbase-Book I think they will finish about equal on
>>>>>>SSDF.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Q: is Necchi book for Shredder 8 UCI engine now available?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>>
>>>>>>not yet. I have no information when it will become available.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?359619
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?359604
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, well that's Bullshit!
>>>>
>>>>I think it's time I e-mailed ChessBase, I don't like this dirty way of doing
>>>>business.
>>>
>>>
>>>what? to what are you referring? I can't understand your anxiety. Chessbase
>>>insisted that the Shredderengine which is delivered with Shredder classic GUI is
>>>about 100 to 150 points weaker than Shredder 8? What's the problem? The author
>>>of Shredder 8 has a contract with Chessbase? Do you think Ubisoft would allow
>>>Johan de King to sell his version with another GUI and an even better book for a
>>>lower price? I doubt so, that's totally understandable (One might of course
>>>critizice Stefan Meyer-Kahlen of not stating this clearly on his page).
>>>
>>>The second point is that Sandro "believes" Shredder 8 with the classic book is
>>>about 50 points stronger than Shredder 7.04 with its classic book. What has that
>>>to do with Chessbase?
>>
>>Are you really this dumb?
>>
>>I guess so...
>
>
>Yes I am. I'm an economist, so it's due to my studies.
>
>But perhaps you could enlighten me, or at least to try (don't let an economist
>behind).
>
>Please
>
>regards Joachim
>
>P.S.: You are angry of Chessbase because they restrict in his contracts the
>right of an engine author to sell his engine to another company or by himself?
>This is understandable, but than you should be angry on _ever_ company which
>deals with software. Maybe it's time for you to become a political activist!

If you read my posts, you would understand my position. That or you don't know
how business is done in the West.



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