Author: Mark Young
Date: 23:11:46 04/17/04
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On April 17, 2004 at 21:18:22, Ed Schröder wrote: >On April 17, 2004 at 14:19:16, Mark Young wrote: > > >>>>It seems Mr. Ham fell for Ed's PR machine.:) > >>>What..............................? >>> >>>Hey, show a bit more respect for an oldtimer, will you? :) >>> >>>Hey (2), Rebel-Yusupov (1997), hardware P2-266 Mhz (ha ha ha) >>> >>>Hey (3), Rebel-Anand (1998), hardware AMD-450 Mhz (ha ha ha) >>> >>>Hey (4), Anand in 1998 was the world's strongest blitz-player. >>> >>>Hey (5), On all 4 matches it was agreed that the winner of the match was the one >>>with the most points, regardless the time control. > >>I know what was agreed in the match conditions. That is not what we are talking >>about. > >>The point being you can not compare apples and oranges. Standard time controls >>with blitz. And no Anand was not the strongest Blitz-player in the world. Only >>the strongest human blitz player. Computers were stronger then and now then at >>blitz chess. > >At that time? No way. I was much surprised Anand lost the blitz part, and so was >Anand, also the prediction poll showed Rebel was the underdog. > >http://www.rebel.nl/predstat.htm I don't think people are always right. Computers were and have shown at this time they were stronger at blitz....even before 1998. This is a fact... I will see if I can find some results. Fritz, & Chessgenius I know had some good results before 1998. > > > > >>>Hey (6), it made little sense those days to play on 40/2h against a GM, the >>>hardware was much to slow. >> >>Right...So for Mr. Ham to trumpet Rebel's match record with GM Yusupov and GM >>Anand as the best computer record to date was clearly wrong. As you did not even >>play standard time control games. > >That was the first experiment, in those days all comps lost from GM's at 40/2h, >some programs incidently winning some games at blitz on ICC. No surprise as the >fastest hardware was a poor P2-266 in those days. > > > >>>Hey (7), Rebel's overall performance at the AEGON tournaments of the 80's and >>>90's was best of all. >> >>Rebel was good... As you know I wrote about Rebel's success here many times. You >>even posted my comments on your web site. >> >> >>> >>>Hey (8), Rebel was the best computer in the Premiere Israel League (5½/8) >>>(1999-2000) >>> >>>Hey (9), Rebel was best computer in DEBRECEN-2000 (8½/11), 1½ points more than >>>the second rated chess program. > >>>Now Mark, come up with the list of your favorite program :) > >>My Favorite programs are ChessGenius for PPC, Chess Tiger 14, and Shredder 8. > >>If you mean what chess program do I think plays the best chess. > >No, I did not mean that, I asked for comparable lists. > >Ed
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