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Subject: Re: Rebel 10: How much pos/sec on AMD K6-300/350?

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 20:29:48 12/14/98

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On December 14, 1998 at 21:34:49, Oliver Y. wrote:

>On December 14, 1998 at 19:26:18, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On December 14, 1998 at 11:23:40, Francois Bertin wrote:
>>
>>>On December 14, 1998 at 10:23:20, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 13, 1998 at 20:14:16, Francois Bertin wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Hi! I am currently looking around to replace my old and trusty P100.
>>>>>I am interested by the AMD K6-300 or 350.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone know how much positions per second Rebel 10 typically
>>>>>does on that kind of processor. Also, does having a L2 cache of 1024K
>>>>>instead of 512K has any significant impact on performance with Rebel?
>>>>>
>>>>>And what about the Celeron 300A, which also seems to be
>>>>>a good alternative?
>>>
>>>>Hello Francois,
>>>>I have an AMD K6-2 @350 Mhz with 512K cache.  Its hard to give you a NPS since
>>>>it not only varies with the position but varies from 1 second to the next with
>>>>the same position.  Here is a position I used to give you some figures.
>>>>
>>>>1b2r3/5k1p/BRb3pB/8/4P3/5P2/8/7K b - - 0 1
>>>> BM Rxe4
>>>>Rebel 10a on my K6-2 @ 350 Mhz I timed it for 5 minutes and calculated an
>>>>average of 118 KNPS.  On my Pentium II @333 Mhz the same 5 minutes averaged
>>>>100 KNPS.  Of course I've seen higher and lower  values throughout a whole game.
>>>
>>>  Thanks for the figures, Jim. Your K6-2 350 must really scream
>>>when analyzing :-) On my P100, on average the pos/sec I get when
>>>examining a position is around 30,000...
>>>
>>>  You state that your system has 512K of L2 cache. Do you think
>>>Rebel would perform better with 1024K in the same task?
>>>
>>>                               Kind regards,
>>>                                               Francois Bertin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>Hello again Francois,
>>I'm sorry but I can't answer that.  It's out of my expertise !  We had this
>>discussion about a month ago with Bob Hyatt and a few others.  I think the
>>botton line was it would not help a lot.  I tried to get one with 1 meg L2 cache
>>but ended up taking the "Best price" I could find and skipped the extra cache.
>
>If I recall correctly, few people could get their hands on the overclockable
>Celeron chip.  Intel made this impossible once they learned of it, perhaps from
>or via http://tomshardware.com


The 300A is easily overclockable : It contain a 4.5x multiplier provided to run
on a 66 Mhz Motherboard (4.5x66Mhz = 300 Mhz) ... if you switch the motherboard
to 100 Mhz you'll get 450 Mhz ...

Regards



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