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Subject: Re: Will Diep be available for purchase Vincent?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:08:23 04/29/04

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On April 29, 2004 at 08:12:22, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 29, 2004 at 07:27:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On April 28, 2004 at 21:28:42, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>On April 28, 2004 at 17:55:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 17:39:58, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 16:45:55, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest.  So, will
>>>>>>>a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I currently do not sell diep. So it is not commercial. Selling winboard versions
>>>>>>would be like getting paid 1 euro an hour, so it is not worth the effort. There
>>>>>>are however plans to release a diep version for windows + interface end of 2004.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This time i would only sell a few versions of diep when there is a clear update
>>>>>>system online for it. So that everything works transparant. Such systems are not
>>>>>>there yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So if released diep will run in its own interface, the engine cannot be loaded
>>>>>>in others of course (like fritz cannot get either).
>>>>>
>>>>> This would cost you many customers. Many people want the Chess engines for
>>>>
>>>>You mean like 10 CCC guys who i can miss as a toothache anyway.
>>>>
>>>>>playing tournaments inside Chessbase GUI and they are very lazy to play by hand
>>>>>in a non-automatic way, the moves. So you can create a Diep that will play it's
>>>>>own interface and a Diep-winboard compatible. Like Chessmaster 8000/9000.
>>>>
>>>>I do not know a single chessmaster user who gives a shit for those features.
>>>>
>>>>I do realize a handful of nerds here does, but you can't earn money on nerds.
>>>>
>>>>>>If i would do that i would
>>>>>>be busy fulltime now avoiding all tricks to win from opponents in other ways
>>>>>>than sportive ones. In that respect the computer chess world is so so sick,
>>>>>>thanks to a few companies and 'testers' who tolerated for payment everything,
>>>>>>that i will not even start a discussion about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have my credit card ready?  I can even send a postal order, or cheque!
>>>>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for the encouragement!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nuff said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>There are millions of nerds and more than a few thousand nerds buy  chess
>>>programs - esp winboard/uci compatible engines.
>>>
>>>In our house ( you have to understand my son plays ice hockey - which is about
>>>as far from chess as one get), we have a advertiser flyer (junk mail) posted on
>>>the refrigerator.  It was from a manufacturer of hockey equipment and skates
>>>with a few of their products pictured on the front.  Gloves, helmet and skates.
>>>
>>>It reads "Everything you need to avoid being inducted into the Chess Hall of
>>>Fame".
>>>
>>>Since hockey and chess absorb so much of my free time, we got a big kick out of
>>>it and saved it.  When friends visit, it is always good for a few laughs.  So as
>>>one can see,  chess has been in Nerdville for quite some time.
>>
>>Even if it was 1000 nerds, you can't make a living from 1000 nerds.
>
>This is the wrong math.
>The question is not if you can make living from 1000 nerds but how much money do
>you expect to earn from additional 1000 buyers and how much work do you need to
>do for that money.
>If you can by some days of work to get additional 1000 customers then I see no
>reason for you not to do it.

>The fact that most of the customers will not use it under winboard is
>irrelevant.
>
>Some commercial programs like chessmaster or Sjeng or Ruffian can play under
>winboard.
>
>Uri

Why not try to sell your movei , winboard compatible, to them for 10 euro?

Perhaps you get a 100 customers or so.

Is that not rewarding for you?




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