Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:24:06 04/29/04
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On April 29, 2004 at 10:56:08, Uri Blass wrote: >On April 29, 2004 at 09:29:24, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 09:03:18, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On April 29, 2004 at 08:35:16, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On April 29, 2004 at 00:05:38, John Merlino wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 23:55:45, ERIQ wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 21:49:15, John Merlino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 19:25:34, ERIQ wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest. So, will a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>amazing! there is one buyer :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I have my credit card ready? I can even send a postal order, or cheque! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>wow!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>not sure why?! but to each his own. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>IMO. diep couldn't beat it's way out of a paper bag in the middle of a rain >>>>>>>>storm, what would be the purpose in buying it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>save you money and get crafty, you'll feel better afterwards :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Not only did Diep beat the Champion (Shredder) at the recent tournament at >>>>>>>Leiden, it was the only program to NOT LOSE to Shredder! It can't be that >>>>>>>bad.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>jm >>>>>>you know as well as I, that any program can have a good event, that does not >>>>>>make it a champion. Shredder is a real champion, it has won lots of events and >>>>>>as fischer put it "strength is better determined by match play", and so being, I >>>>>>don't think diep would win a 20 game match with any of the top 5 programs today. >>>>>>I just don't think much of diep or it's style. >>>>>> >>>>>>Sign, >>>>>> Eriq Lamar >>>>> >>>>>I didn't say that Shredder wasn't a great program, nor did I mean to infer that >>>>>Diep was a "top 5 program". All I was saying was that Diep can't obviously be as >>>>>bad as your colorful statement above claims, or else it couldn't have beaten a >>>>>champion. >>>> >>>>Oh well, the latest versions of DIEP are in the top3 for sure. >>>> >>>>Whether it's better than Shredder or worse, we'll see in world champs 2004. >>>> >>>>It would be a wrong conclusion to say that Shredder isn't dominating currently. >>>>Anyone denying that has dirt in his eyes. Shredder 7.04 and 8 are over-all >>>>monsters. Any other engine that says he's in top3 must proof his point and beat >>>>it. >>> >>>Beating shredder is no proof that you are in the top 3 programs. >>>Yace also beated shredder in another tournamrnt and is not close to be in the >>>top 3 programs. >>> >>>Uri >> >>And scoring 0 points in world champs 2004 for Movei is no proof that it is not >>in the top 3 either of course. > >I never claimed that movei is in the top 3 programs. >I can claim that it is not in the top 3 programs and even not in the top 30 >programs so I do not see your point. > >Uri Diep has always been the best program around, with the most sophisticated evaluation, the most tactically accurate search, etc. If you don't believe that just ask Vincent. Bad results don't prove or disprove a thing in his world. Oh yes, everybody else's evaluations are crappy, along with their search and everything else they do. The same source will verify that as well... I really don't know why we even have chess tournaments, in fact..
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