Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 04:14:21 04/30/04
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On April 30, 2004 at 03:54:11, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On April 29, 2004 at 23:51:17, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 04:09:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>The recent tournaments have shown that Shredder is one leap ahead of all other >>>engines. I also know this based on my own experiments, as Shredder 8 is the only >>>engine that consistently scores above 50% against Falcon in my tests. >> >>Shredder is strong, of course, but I don't understand why people tend to >>overlook Fritz. Fritz is also strong! I think both Amir and Stefan have >>pointed out in the past that Frans often doesn't get the credit he deserves for >>a great engine. > >For several years Junior, Fritz, and Shredder were all leading the pack, with >Junior usually being ahead. But since Shredder 8 there seems to be a gap between >Shredder and the other two. I'm sure the authors of Fritz and Junior have also >sped up their efforts towards the WCCC, so we expect to see a very interesting >fight there. > Fritz definitely has never done real bad. But after 1995 it never was the best. It really was Shredder that dominated. Junior impressed by good tournament performances, not at home. At home i only see horror&co from Junior, but they do well at tournaments. Managed to beat DIEP somehow again in world champs 2003. We can argue about shredder versus junior, but both have several world titles. Fritz never was as an engine the best. It always was at some distance. In world champs 2003 i definitely feel Junior&Fritz were at the same level, but it was the Kure book there that really impressed. Fritz scored full points based upon Kure. Kure's work i see as more significant as that from Frans. Nevertheless it is clear Fritz continuesly progressed. However the progress from Shredder to shredder 7.04/8 is clear. It is a huge step forward and no one managed to follow that jump in 2003. In 2004 others must proof they also have made a jump forward. I feel DIEP has made some big jumps now, but of course i still had to make up for more than others. Going from #5 a number of places up the ladder is already real hard work. Most do not realize how much chessprograms advance in playing strength each 2 years. Only if you play these programs in the few tournaments they join, you know it. The level at cct previous time i can only laugh for. >>Dave
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