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Subject: Re: Behind Deep Blue: 3rd print with new Hsu afterword

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:01:19 05/10/04

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On May 10, 2004 at 13:26:38, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On May 10, 2004 at 11:59:35, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>The commentary speaks for itself.  If you want to take the opinion of Ruffian
>>(2000 positional) over 3 international players, it is of course your choice.
>
>I don't know what Ruffian thinks of Bc7, but g5 is according to some not a
>mistake but in fact more or less forced. I also doubt Ruffian would play such a
>move without good reason.
>
>Not that I'm really able to judge either way of course :)
>
>-S.

I agree.  Kasparov himself said "g5 is black's only hope here."  I'd trust that
more than "during the game kibitzing by announcers" who are not really "in the
game" as deeply as the person actually at the board.

Black may be lost.  But I don't believe g5 is what lost the game...

I think this win was actually quite lucky.  The sac by Kasparov might not work
in similar positions...


>
>>http://www.research.ibm.com/deepblue/games/game1/html/move12a.html
>>
>>A few snippets:
>>
>>Mr. ASHLEY: I'm sorry to interrupt, but the last move, talk about unusual, the
>>computer has played bishop from d6 to c7. And Yaz, the bishop and queen are
>>pointed in a direction that's off the chessboard, that's the wrong way!
>>(Laughter) usually you get the bishop and queen pointing towards the king. Here
>>the bishop and queen are pointing to nothing! And not only that, the black queen
>>looks at such a strange square, I would think if you saw a human play this move
>>you'd think he was off his rocker?
>>
>>Mr. SEIRAWAN: I would scold him. I would scold him.
>>
>>Mr. ASHLEY: I know what happens to me when somebody plays a move like Bd6-c7. My
>>response is usually "Okay, now I'm just going to have to hurt you." (Laughter.)
>>
>>Mr. SEIRAWAN: What I am sure he hopes that Deep Blue will do is to play the move
>>g7-g5. That would force Garry perhaps to retreat his knight, and at the same
>>time Deep Blue would have seriously weakened his king.
>>
>>Mr. ASHLEY: Another thing that happened last year -- and look at this! Talk
>>about treasureing your bishops! Moved g7-g5 has been played, attacking the
>>knight on h4, keeping Garry from executing the threat he had wanted to initiate
>>a moment ago, but now Kasparov is hesitating, but he must love what just
>>happened. That knight on h4 that is under attack is now retreated instantly, but
>>the weak squares in front of the king. You've got to worry a little bit. I mean
>>look at this bishop. The bishop on b2 cutting across the chessboard, slicing
>>into that board all the way to black's king. And I know Garry Kasparov, he loves
>>to attack. You've got to be thinking, he's thinking about mating somebody this
>>game.
>>
>>anthony



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