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Subject: Re: new supercomputer!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:22:44 05/14/04

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On May 14, 2004 at 00:11:48, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On May 13, 2004 at 12:48:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 2004 at 08:03:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 13, 2004 at 07:56:28, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 12, 2004 at 22:56:45, margolies,marc wrote:
>>>>
>>>>400 staff members, 12 megawatt, and just slightly faster than earth,
>>>>it all sounds stupid to me.
>>>
>>>400 staff members is of course too pathetic for words. 390 will be drinking
>>>coffee.
>>>
>>>>by the way, it won't be the fastest supercomputer at all.
>>>>
>>>>Note that they probably didn't order what they can get for their money in 2007
>>>>either. clever salesmen promise something that's far under what they can deliver
>>>>in 2007 for that price.
>>>>
>>>>Suppose you would order for 50 million the fastest opteron cluster available by
>>>>then.
>>>>
>>>>Let's assume $6000 a node using myrinet pci-x.
>>>>
>>>>each node dual chip opteron.
>>>>
>>>>by then of course 1 chip has 4 cores.
>>>
>>>1 node has 4 cores.
>>
>>Or 1 node will have N chips, each of which will probably have 2-4 cores
>>depending on whether AMD delivers a 4-core opteron by then.
>
>I count at 2 a cpu.
>
>



Count at whatever you want.  dual core is 2005.  2007 will almost certainly be
quad-core...


>>>
>>>>4 processors * (50000k$/6k$) = 8333 nodes * 4 processors = 33333 processors.
>>>>
>>>>Right now 2.2Ghz single processor opteorn delivers 4 gflops. By then we have of
>>>>course 0.065 at 4Ghz or so and delivering more a cycle.
>>>>
>>>>So 10 gflop is not unrealistic. 33333 * 10 gflop = 333333 gflop = 333 tflop.
>>>>
>>>>So just ordering 50 tflop for 50 million now they get ripped off. What they can
>>>>deliver now for 50 million is of course not even close what they can deliver by
>>>>then for 50 million.
>>>>
>>>>By the way IBM already is building a 1 pflop machine.
>>>>
>>>>>OAK RIDGE, Tenn., May 12 (UPI) -- Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham said
>>>>>Wednesday the Oak Ridge National Laboratory will build the world's most powerful
>>>>>supercomputer by 2007
>>>>>......
>>>>>The supercomputer will be housed in a new 170,000 square foot facility that
>>>>>includes room for 400 staff members in 40,000 square feet of space. The machines
>>>>>will run on 12 megawatts of power, which will be supplied by the Tennessee
>>>>>Valley Authority.



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