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Subject: Re: new supercomputer!

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 17:43:24 05/14/04

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On May 14, 2004 at 08:23:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:

The difference between some cc-NUMA machines and clusters is only the fact that
the first one uses software from SGI and the second one from IBM.

It's just a software layer.

>On May 13, 2004 at 23:58:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 2004 at 12:46:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On May 13, 2004 at 07:47:32, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 13, 2004 at 03:09:22, Joshua Shriver wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Question is... are they going to run a parallel based chess engine on it :)
>>>>
>>>>Only diep would run at it, and they didn't approach me.
>>>
>>>I can't _possibly_ imagine why "they don't approach you."
>>>
>>>Also you do know this is a cluster?  Not a NUMA box?
>>>
>>>Of course you did.
>>>
>>>I'm sure your program does _great_ on a message-passing cluster...
>>
>>May i remind you your message passing cluster you get there has a faster one way
>>pingpong latency than origin3800 at 512 processors....
>
>May I remind you that NUMA and clusters are _two_ different things???
>
>Or is it pointless???
>
>Clusters have _zero_ shared memory.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>> AFAIK their only plan is
>>>>to build a 50 tflop machine for 50 million dollar and the rest is unclear.
>>>
>>>Nothing is unclear at all.  Oak Ridge is one of our national labs, just like Los
>>>Alamos, Lawrence-Livermore, etc.  They always strive to "push the envelope"
>>>although this world of "clusters" is not as interesting as the old days of "real
>>>super-computers"...  They have applications that run for months at a time.  And
>>>they'd like to increase the size of the data but that would push the
>>>applications into years of run-time.  Faster processing demands is what is
>>>driving this.
>>>
>>>But anyone could find that out by looking around or asking...



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