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Subject: Re: ssdf ratings too high for hardware used.

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:32:48 05/15/04

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On May 15, 2004 at 10:00:15, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On May 15, 2004 at 09:42:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2004 at 04:59:19, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2004 at 04:20:13, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 15, 2004 at 00:32:40, ERIQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I would think the ratings could be closer to fide's if the programs ran on 3ghz+
>>>>>machines.
>>>>>
>>>>>I also think engines could do well in tourneys if competing w/ humans not
>>>>>knowing which program it was or what book program is using. Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>Why do you look only at the top of the list?
>>>>I think that the rating of the programs at the bottom of the list is too low
>>>>if you compare it with humans.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>The longest the list of programs participating the  lowest the rating of the
>>>programs on the bottom of the list will be. The SSDF should not be testing more
>>>than 20 programs, in reality who care about programs with lower rating than
>>>2200.
>>>
>>>Jorge
>>
>>The opposite.
>>
>>Who cares for the rating against humans of the strong programs except some GM's?
>>
>>Maybe it is more important to have correct rating for the lowest part because
>>people care about rating of things at similiar strength to them.
>>
>>For me this is also not important but I see no reason that humans will care
>>about rating of programs against humans when they beat them easily.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I do not agree.
>
>Most people use the chess programs to improve their play and to check
>games/positions.
>
>The weaker programs are the worst on this matter and only the best ones may be
>good enough (I am personally still not satisfied), so for most of the people
>(chess players) weaker programs are simply "museum toys" or something not
>interesting at all...
>
>Computer chess fans (collectors) are very very few.
>
>Sandro

I did not claim that strength is not important for buyers but I doubt if the
rating against humans is important.

The only important thing is that the new thing is better and the ssdf gives that
information.

Uri



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