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Subject: Re: Computer Trouble - Advice requested

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 17:43:50 05/17/04

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On May 17, 2004 at 18:32:49, martin fierz wrote:

>On May 17, 2004 at 17:04:25, Stephen Ham wrote:
>
>>On May 17, 2004 at 15:14:56, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.comtek4u.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=printpage&artid=1
>>>
>>>Steve,
>>>
>>>Read the above.  Your hard drive is probably OK.  Try looking for overheating
>>>problems with the CPU. If the cooling fan and heat sink is even a little bit
>>>loose then you could get all the problems you mentioned.  Trust me.
>>>
>>>Don't be a Griswold as in National Lampoon's Vacation and spend $500.00 when a
>>>$7.00 fan/heatsink is to blame.
>>>
>>>TJ
>>>
>>>PS A 3 year old hard drive that is little used should not fail. The power supply
>>>or the CPU fan/heat sink is much more likely to fail.
>>>
>>>
>>Dear Tim,
>>
>>Thanks very kindly for the sage advice. It seems that I'll need to replace my HD
>>regardless (it's got "bad spots). Nonetheless I promise to check my fans and
>>heat sink.
>>
>>Personally, I don't think my CPU is "hot." I live in Minnesota and so the
>>weather is frequently cold for several months of the year. The CPU sits on a
>>concrete floor in the coldest part of my unfinished basement. Still, I know that
>>AMD's can often get hotter than Pentiums, but I just don't think that's the case
>>here.
>>
>
>besides the computer troubleshooting lesson, you also need a physics lesson :-)
>the weather in minnesota has next to nothing to do with your CPUs temperature.
>the CPU is not sitting on a concrete floor at all, the CPU is sitting on the
>mainboard inside the computer case, and is thermally well isolated from your
>cold concrete floor. CPUs, a couple of square inches in size, use something like
>50 Watts.
>if you ever touched a 50 Watt light bulb, you got an approximate idea of how hot
>that would get if it didn't have a powerful cooler and fan on top :-)
>the main things governing your CPU temperature are the heat conductance to the
>cooler, and the fan. if one of these isn't working properly (e.g. too much dust
>in the fan after years of use), the CPU overheats, and the computer either is
>smart enough to shut down or dies.
>
>so much for the physics. i don't believe the theory about the hot CPU disturbing
>your HD though :-)
>
>cheers
>  martin
>
>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Stephen


That is not completely correct.  I have lmsensors working, and my CPU temp
varies from about 40-50 C (I know, its a little hot) depending on the
temperature in the room (varies from 65-90 F).

anthony



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